kinda diy toe/camber
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Melting Slicks
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kinda diy toe/camber
made these at work, this car has a much lower body than my others so i had to get creative
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Yeah, that's pretty creative. If you could modify to allow for a digital level, you would have a winner! Just fatten up that rib that your level sits on a bit and you are there
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This, and maybe some holes in the plates to zip tie to wheel spokes (so you don't have to worry about them shifting during adjustments).
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Melting Slicks
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thanks for the feedback guys, i think ill have a second go at the file for these on monday!
i had an idea on the digital level but for 40 bux ill just use my angle finder
p.s. my car has about 2* camber all around lol
i had an idea on the digital level but for 40 bux ill just use my angle finder
p.s. my car has about 2* camber all around lol
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Melting Slicks
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silly me, already own a digital level carry it around with me every day, just needed the app
https://market.android.com/details?i...RrLmJ1YmJsZSJd
https://market.android.com/details?i...RrLmJ1YmJsZSJd
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How do you keep the plate on the other side of the car from moving when you pull on the tape? I have a set of toe plates with notches spaced 24 inches apart (makes it easier to calculate correct tow reading) but to get the bow out of the tape I find I have to pull on it hard enough that it moves the plate on the other side if I don't do something to brace it.
Also how do you compensate for the tire bulge at the bottom of the tire? My plates are bent outwards in that area.
Bill
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Melting Slicks
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I got another person holding the opposite side still, my shiba inu just doesnt have the attention span!
One thing i dont got is any sign of bulge, it might be all the camber in it, also prefer not to hook or press to the rim. Ill see what i can come up with for when it does happen on this car or another.
Going to make another version tomorrow
One thing i dont got is any sign of bulge, it might be all the camber in it, also prefer not to hook or press to the rim. Ill see what i can come up with for when it does happen on this car or another.
Going to make another version tomorrow
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You might want to get some statistics on tire and wheel edge runout before you jump into mass production of the tool. You also must have a level floor to park your car on.
I use a digital laser level shooting over my 36 foot garage for toe and the digital meter for camber .. but must know and compensate for wheel or tire runout.
I use a digital laser level shooting over my 36 foot garage for toe and the digital meter for camber .. but must know and compensate for wheel or tire runout.
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Melting Slicks
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I was looking for a fun project not so much mass production.
I bet there is more give in the factory rubber joints than there is run out on my reproduction wheel. Thats just a thought no I am not going to do a study.
So not concerned about fractions of a degree, something my mediocre driving would never take advantage of, no matter because it seems my garage is 12 feet too short anyway
This one will work fine with me, when a buddy is not around I'll volunteer a zip tie or two for toe, and nice flat spot to hold my phone against to get camber, and clearance for any bulging that may take place (thanks for the tip)
I bet there is more give in the factory rubber joints than there is run out on my reproduction wheel. Thats just a thought no I am not going to do a study.
So not concerned about fractions of a degree, something my mediocre driving would never take advantage of, no matter because it seems my garage is 12 feet too short anyway
This one will work fine with me, when a buddy is not around I'll volunteer a zip tie or two for toe, and nice flat spot to hold my phone against to get camber, and clearance for any bulging that may take place (thanks for the tip)
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While run out can be a concern I don't think it is that much of a concern. Longacre makes several tools that use the rim for a reference. Even the repair shop alignment tools use the rim for making their measurements. As for tire run out I use my Sears 24 inch Laser Level to set my thrust angle by setting across the rear tires and pointing it toward a tape measure at the front of the car. I have had no problems setting the angle and the car runs straight.
It looks like your solution for the bending will work just fine. What I meant by bending your plates for tire bulge is to bend them like the plates shown in this picture.
These are the plates that I have. The advantage of your plates is the extra height that can be used for the camber gauge.
Bill
It looks like your solution for the bending will work just fine. What I meant by bending your plates for tire bulge is to bend them like the plates shown in this picture.
These are the plates that I have. The advantage of your plates is the extra height that can be used for the camber gauge.
Bill
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Melting Slicks
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first job was fixing the camber on the rear, added .1" to the rear control arm shims (about the same as one more stock shim) took what looks like a half degree or so of camber out.
cant take any more out, i have run out of room between the tire and the fender
so after that i checked the toe and the camber change threw the toe way out, took about 6 flats on each side to get back to zero
next up is the front, tho i am already flirting with zero room to stand the tires up.. to may just do a slight toe correction and let that be that.
cuz im sure not raising the car!
oh and the first set of plates i made (pictured in real life) are ready to move to a forever home, as i have made myself the second set that i will be holding on to. let me know your interest.
cant take any more out, i have run out of room between the tire and the fender
so after that i checked the toe and the camber change threw the toe way out, took about 6 flats on each side to get back to zero
next up is the front, tho i am already flirting with zero room to stand the tires up.. to may just do a slight toe correction and let that be that.
cuz im sure not raising the car!
oh and the first set of plates i made (pictured in real life) are ready to move to a forever home, as i have made myself the second set that i will be holding on to. let me know your interest.
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If you would turn it upside down, you would get a valid camber reading because the contact bulge would be eliminated.
first job was fixing the camber on the rear, added .1" to the rear control arm shims (about the same as one more stock shim) took what looks like a half degree or so of camber out.
cant take any more out, i have run out of room between the tire and the fender
so after that i checked the toe and the camber change threw the toe way out, took about 6 flats on each side to get back to zero
next up is the front, tho i am already flirting with zero room to stand the tires up.. to may just do a slight toe correction and let that be that.
cuz im sure not raising the car!
oh and the first set of plates i made (pictured in real life) are ready to move to a forever home, as i have made myself the second set that i will be holding on to. let me know your interest.
cant take any more out, i have run out of room between the tire and the fender
so after that i checked the toe and the camber change threw the toe way out, took about 6 flats on each side to get back to zero
next up is the front, tho i am already flirting with zero room to stand the tires up.. to may just do a slight toe correction and let that be that.
cuz im sure not raising the car!
oh and the first set of plates i made (pictured in real life) are ready to move to a forever home, as i have made myself the second set that i will be holding on to. let me know your interest.
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Melting Slicks
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i dont follow you, i get a perfectly usable camber reading. see the opening in the bottom of the cad image, also fwiw i had no measurable bulge, and if i did, it would be consistant side to side anyways.. not a big deal but was a free change on the part.
