preparing my c6 for autox
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Burning Brakes
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From: Ma
preparing my c6 for autox
what can i do to my car to be prepared and handle well at the autox?( beside driving skills)
class don't matter for me
i have so far z 06 front sway bar stock c6 rear sway bar
pfadt schocks, good street tires
what else ?
class don't matter for me
i have so far z 06 front sway bar stock c6 rear sway bar
pfadt schocks, good street tires
what else ?
Track Junky
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From: Orlando Area
Tech Contributor
1. Good brake pads and fluid are a must. Try Carbotech and ATE or Motul
2. Brake coolling ducts
3. Heat shields for tie rod ends and ball joint ends
4. Non cross-drilled rotors
5. Track alignment
That's a pretty good inexpensive start. Above all, seat time will give you the best overall gains.
2. Brake coolling ducts
3. Heat shields for tie rod ends and ball joint ends
4. Non cross-drilled rotors
5. Track alignment
That's a pretty good inexpensive start. Above all, seat time will give you the best overall gains.
Sr.Random input generator
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From: Sammamish, WA
1. Good brake pads and fluid are a must. Try Carbotech and ATE or Motul
2. Brake coolling ducts
3. Heat shields for tie rod ends and ball joint ends
4. Non cross-drilled rotors
5. Track alignment
That's a pretty good inexpensive start. Above all, seat time will give you the best overall gains.
2. Brake coolling ducts
3. Heat shields for tie rod ends and ball joint ends
4. Non cross-drilled rotors
5. Track alignment
That's a pretty good inexpensive start. Above all, seat time will give you the best overall gains.
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Drifting
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1. Good brake pads and fluid are a must. Try Carbotech and ATE or Motul
2. Brake coolling ducts
3. Heat shields for tie rod ends and ball joint ends
4. Non cross-drilled rotors
5. Track alignment
That's a pretty good inexpensive start. Above all, seat time will give you the best overall gains.
2. Brake coolling ducts
3. Heat shields for tie rod ends and ball joint ends
4. Non cross-drilled rotors
5. Track alignment
That's a pretty good inexpensive start. Above all, seat time will give you the best overall gains.
1. Spot on - and if you get new pads, be sure and bed them properly. I use the Super Blue fluid for my brakes and my clutch.
2. These won't hurt - but you really don't need them on most autocross courses.
3. I've never needed these - you don't really generate that much heat in autocross.
4. Later on, this is correct. If you have Z51 brakes, just check for cracks in the stock rotors.
5. Spot on.
Track Junky
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From: Orlando Area
Tech Contributor
1. Spot on - and if you get new pads, be sure and bed them properly. I use the Super Blue fluid for my brakes and my clutch.
2. These won't hurt - but you really don't need them on most autocross courses.
3. I've never needed these - you don't really generate that much heat in autocross.
4. Later on, this is correct. If you have Z51 brakes, just check for cracks in the stock rotors.
5. Spot on.
2. These won't hurt - but you really don't need them on most autocross courses.
3. I've never needed these - you don't really generate that much heat in autocross.
4. Later on, this is correct. If you have Z51 brakes, just check for cracks in the stock rotors.
5. Spot on.
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1. Good brake pads and fluid are a must. Try Carbotech and ATE or Motul
2. Brake coolling ducts
3. Heat shields for tie rod ends and ball joint ends
4. Non cross-drilled rotors
5. Track alignment
That's a pretty good inexpensive start. Above all, seat time will give you the best overall gains.
2. Brake coolling ducts
3. Heat shields for tie rod ends and ball joint ends
4. Non cross-drilled rotors
5. Track alignment
That's a pretty good inexpensive start. Above all, seat time will give you the best overall gains.
I have found the best mod for an autocross car are tires. A good sticky tire along with a good set of shocks and an aggressive alignment with a lot of camber and some toe out in the front and some toe in on the rear.
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From: Everett Wa
You really don't need to do anything to your car at this time except make sure everything is topped off and in good condition. Seat time is by far the biggest factor. Once you get to the limit of you current setup you will have the experience to make future changes. Tires are the biggest mod in autocross.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Ma
thanks
what are the agresive aligment numbers?
also what tire presure?
i use stock resr sway because i have stock c 6 size wheels for autox, and i afraid it will be oversteering, i did not notice understeer yet
what are the agresive aligment numbers?
also what tire presure?
i use stock resr sway because i have stock c 6 size wheels for autox, and i afraid it will be oversteering, i did not notice understeer yet
Drifting
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From: South Georgia
Now that I run wider wheels and tires, it just grips even better.
I have some Z06 shocks if you want them. 20k miles on them, $50 for all four plus shipping.
Safety Car
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That's a misnomer - dude I ran a Z06 rear bar and Z06 shocks (still run the sway bar) when I was using stock wheels and tires. I (should say we, thanks to my race engineer, corvetteZ51racer) tuned out the understeer and mid-corner washout with a Pfadt sway bar and Pfadt inverted sport shocks.
Now that I run wider wheels and tires, it just grips even better.
I have some Z06 shocks if you want them. 20k miles on them, $50 for all four plus shipping.
Now that I run wider wheels and tires, it just grips even better.
I have some Z06 shocks if you want them. 20k miles on them, $50 for all four plus shipping.
If you ever have questions about car setup with our products please give us a call! We always love helping folks out with their fine tuning!
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Drifting
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From: South Georgia
Yes,
Loaner helmets are nice to have in a pinch, but someone else's sweat on your head (unless she is really hawt) is not such a nice thing.
Hell's bells - I spray Lysol on the inside of my own helmet before the event, after the event and before I put it away.
Loaner helmets are nice to have in a pinch, but someone else's sweat on your head (unless she is really hawt) is not such a nice thing.
Hell's bells - I spray Lysol on the inside of my own helmet before the event, after the event and before I put it away.
Burning Brakes
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From: Ottawa, Ontario
When I was autox'ing and lapping, I used a bandana under my helmet to keep the sweat out of the lining. Helped some.
Pro
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If you find that you really enjoy auto-x look to see if there is an evolution school program coming to a location to near you. Money spent on set time and quality instruction will drop your times more than any suspension mods at first (evo school is pretty cheap and amazing bang-for-buck given that you'll get several seasons worth of seat time in one class).
Have fun!
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Sounds like good mods for a track car, but unecessary for an autocross car. Except for a good autocross alignment. A typical run is only 40 to 60 seconds long and the brakes just don't get that hot nor the tie rod ends or ball joints.
I have found the best mod for an autocross car are tires. A good sticky tire along with a good set of shocks and an aggressive alignment with a lot of camber and some toe out in the front and some toe in on the rear.
I have found the best mod for an autocross car are tires. A good sticky tire along with a good set of shocks and an aggressive alignment with a lot of camber and some toe out in the front and some toe in on the rear.
But for starters, just go drive the darned thing and see how the handling seems to you. In NCCC autocross, the non-standard sway bar will bump you into a different class.
