Cam too big? Broken lifter and valves touched pistons...
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Melting Slicks
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I'll have them count the roller pins to make sure they got them all
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Damn Chris, that looks awful.
I'm really sorry to hear of all your troubles.
Regarding the clutch choice, I think you have 2 excellent choices picked out. I was torn between those 2 clutches and ended up going with the Mantic twin disc. The guys at ECS swear by them, and given their track record, I opted to give it a shot. They even gave me a 100% satisfaction moneyback guarantee so it's tough to argue that.
I'll be placing the order for it on Friday.
Regarding a cam choice-both the spin cam and G6X3 are good choices, but they are 2 different animals.
If you want a wilder cam lope at idle, well then you can adjust some of the timing settings at idle and make it sound wilder than it really is. Ask me how I know
I'm really sorry to hear of all your troubles.
Regarding the clutch choice, I think you have 2 excellent choices picked out. I was torn between those 2 clutches and ended up going with the Mantic twin disc. The guys at ECS swear by them, and given their track record, I opted to give it a shot. They even gave me a 100% satisfaction moneyback guarantee so it's tough to argue that.
I'll be placing the order for it on Friday.
Regarding a cam choice-both the spin cam and G6X3 are good choices, but they are 2 different animals.
If you want a wilder cam lope at idle, well then you can adjust some of the timing settings at idle and make it sound wilder than it really is. Ask me how I know
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Can they weld them and re-machine the lifter bores in the aluminum blocks now, or weld and put a sleeve in? Back in the old days we used to do that, heck, you could buy oversize lifters it was so common to re-machine them.
My buddy ended up getting a smoking deal on a new engine.
Matter of fact I have two friends who had spun lifters that broke the block. I wonder what causes these lifters to spin.
My buddy ended up getting a smoking deal on a new engine.
Matter of fact I have two friends who had spun lifters that broke the block. I wonder what causes these lifters to spin.
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Can they weld them and re-machine the lifter bores in the aluminum blocks now, or weld and put a sleeve in? Back in the old days we used to do that, heck, you could buy oversize lifters it was so common to re-machine them.
My buddy ended up getting a smoking deal on a new engine.
Matter of fact I have two friends who had spun lifters that broke the block. I wonder what causes these lifters to spin.
My buddy ended up getting a smoking deal on a new engine.
Matter of fact I have two friends who had spun lifters that broke the block. I wonder what causes these lifters to spin.
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Can they weld them and re-machine the lifter bores in the aluminum blocks now, or weld and put a sleeve in? Back in the old days we used to do that, heck, you could buy oversize lifters it was so common to re-machine them.
My buddy ended up getting a smoking deal on a new engine.
Matter of fact I have two friends who had spun lifters that broke the block. I wonder what causes these lifters to spin.
My buddy ended up getting a smoking deal on a new engine.
Matter of fact I have two friends who had spun lifters that broke the block. I wonder what causes these lifters to spin.
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Melting Slicks
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Ugghhh is sure right... I see where your talking about. I emailed the shop to have them take a look and let me know... Im hoping its just some gasket material or something that fell into the motor, it was pretty dirty in there actually... But with the way my lucks been guess things will probably only get worse!
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You're right, which I'm sure is why the OP, and the involved shop thought it was safe to install without checking. Obviously there was a mistake somewhere in the process. Hopefully for the OP the guilty party will own it.
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As long as its ground correctly and installed correctly with the correct parts you should be fine. Mine is running awesome. I'm not sure where Chris's issue is coming from actually. Cam ground incorrectly? Install done incorrectly? Wrong springs? Who knows at this point. This is one reason I like doing my own work. Then I can only blame myself if there is a problem.
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I wouldn't be, it looks like someone didn't do their homework when they installed it.
I don't know if you can compare an LS7 with an LS3 and I don't know the configuration except for the cube difference but I'm running a GT21 which is a lot bigger than yours. Also my heads are milled for 11.5
compression.
Specs:
Cam Number Duration @.050 Valve Lift Rocker Arm Centerline
LS1-GT21 243/259 .691/.702 1.8 ratio 112
I know someone that runs this cam with no problems in an LS3. The
key is installing it straight up.
Specs:
Cam Number Duration @.050 Valve Lift Rocker Arm Centerline
LS1-GT11 215/231 .631 /.644 1.7 ratio 118
I don't know if you can compare an LS7 with an LS3 and I don't know the configuration except for the cube difference but I'm running a GT21 which is a lot bigger than yours. Also my heads are milled for 11.5
compression.
Specs:
Cam Number Duration @.050 Valve Lift Rocker Arm Centerline
LS1-GT21 243/259 .691/.702 1.8 ratio 112
I know someone that runs this cam with no problems in an LS3. The
key is installing it straight up.
Specs:
Cam Number Duration @.050 Valve Lift Rocker Arm Centerline
LS1-GT11 215/231 .631 /.644 1.7 ratio 118
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231/238 .638”/.615” 113LSA +3 advance
Comp EHI/LXL lobes
I have PRC 650 spring kit going in..
^^^that is what I have going in.
Does comp have issues with not grinding the cam properly?
sorry to hijack your thread OP. You just have me worried now haha.
Comp EHI/LXL lobes
I have PRC 650 spring kit going in..
^^^that is what I have going in.
Does comp have issues with not grinding the cam properly?
sorry to hijack your thread OP. You just have me worried now haha.
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I ran this in a 346 and it is a baby cam with its tiny intake duration and huge LSA. Idles more stock than a stock cam.
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Mike. Just get the cam checked on an independent cam doctor prior to installation. Bigger cams have been put in LS3s with no issue so I feel like either the cam wasn't ground properly or there are other factors involved that haven't surfaced yet.
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As long as its ground correctly and installed correctly with the correct parts you should be fine. Mine is running awesome. I'm not sure where Chris's issue is coming from actually. Cam ground incorrectly? Install done incorrectly? Wrong springs? Who knows at this point. This is one reason I like doing my own work. Then I can only blame myself if there is a problem.
I've messed up a couple times, but it's a far far lower percentage and not near as costly.
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Did the shop check the installed height? Being that only one head was effected. Maybe the spring pockets were machined to deep a from a core shift ect.
If the cam was installed a tooth off or the cam was ground incorrectly it would have showed up on all of the pistons on just one bank. There is no way that Cam would have issues on a stock un milled head.
If the cam was installed a tooth off or the cam was ground incorrectly it would have showed up on all of the pistons on just one bank. There is no way that Cam would have issues on a stock un milled head.
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