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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 09:51 AM
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The other day getting into the car I noticed this on the floor of the driver's footwell, left side.



It looks like it is part of the springs for the pedals, but the clutch and brake pedals are working fine; cruise control switches off, brake lights come on. Any idea where this goes and what so I need to do re-install it?
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 09:57 AM
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Your clutch pedal spring broke. I have removed a dozen of them at the race track. You should remove the other half of it or it could bind up and prevent the clutch from disengaging. All you need is a long flat screwdriver. Put a towel on the floor as it will be greasy. Pop the other side out of the bracket then pull it out of the pedal itself. It can be tricky to pull out of the pedal, keep at it you'll get it.

Replace it if you want. I haven't had one for years and we all know my clutch is doing fine.
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 10:51 AM
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Thanks, Joe. What advantage do you get from not having one?
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Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
Thanks, Joe. What advantage do you get from not having one?
The spring is there to assist in holding the clutch down to the floor for those sporting high heels. Without it the clutch is a little harder to hold down but it has a more linear feel.

When you soup up your car...typically after a cam, the clutch pedal will often stick to the floor after a shift on the drag strip. Removing the spring (and the Ranger method of fluid replacement) cures the sticking down pedal most of the time.

I'm not kidding when I say I have removed at least a half dozen at the track. I carry a screwdriver in my cubby. I can send you a spring if you want one...though it's cheap at the dealer, probably cost just as much to mail it.
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 02:06 PM
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I'll pop it out and see how I like.

Thanks for the help
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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Joe popped my spring at the last track outing, knocked a tenth off the 60 ft from better feel of the engagement point. I took the back roads home vs the hiway and did notice an increased pedal feel, however since I am a big boy and hardly ever wear heels any more my left calf will deal with it.
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Kerrdogg
Joe popped my spring at the last track outing, knocked a tenth off the 60 ft from better feel of the engagement point. I took the back roads home vs the hiway and did notice an increased pedal feel, however since I am a big boy and hardly ever wear heels any more my left calf will deal with it.
So no heels in your DRAG race?
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The spring also pulls the clutch pedal up, supposedly to prevent premature throwout bearing wear. But if left foot never rests on the clutch pedal (many do that unconsciously), I suppose it's not an issue. Finally, haven't done it on this car yet, but when I've had clutch hydraulic pressure relieved in other cars (bleeding job gone bad, etc), the spring pressure is only felt at the very bottom/top of pedal travel. On the engagement zone, pedal stayed where I left it, meaning spring had no effect at all in that zone, but many owners (especially the M3 V8 community) sweared they had better feel, which I knew physically wasn't the case.

Anyway, the spring on the Vette could act differently, so maybe somebody who has had the clutch with no hydraulic pressure and spring installed can comment on its effect on the friction zone. I'm leaving mine in place. Vette has pretty good feel and modulation compared to most cars I've driven, so I'm happy with it. Good day gang.

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The first time I looked up at the pedal springs when I discovered the part, so much of it was in place and sitting pretty much like factory, I missed that it was broken. The rest of the spring:


You can see where it broke. I'm amazed I did not hear it snap.

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Originally Posted by Kerrdogg
Joe popped my spring at the last track outing, knocked a tenth off the 60 ft from better feel of the engagement point. I took the back roads home vs the hiway and did notice an increased pedal feel, however since I am a big boy and hardly ever wear heels any more my left calf will deal with it.
I'm not in heels very often either.

The real test will be when I get stuck in DC traffic and literally go a 1/2 mile in traffic, proceeding about 100' then stopping, and repeat. If it starts to feel heavy I'll get another spring.
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe_G
Your clutch pedal spring broke. I have removed a dozen of them at the race track. You should remove the other half of it or it could bind up and prevent the clutch from disengaging. All you need is a long flat screwdriver. Put a towel on the floor as it will be greasy. Pop the other side out of the bracket then pull it out of the pedal itself. It can be tricky to pull out of the pedal, keep at it you'll get it.

Replace it if you want. I haven't had one for years and we all know my clutch is doing fine.
I had the exact same thing happen to me as well. One day I looked down and saw extra parts. If you look up at the clutch pedal from underneath, you should be able to see the other half still attached.

I put a new spring in place and thought something was wrong as the pedal felt so soft. That is just the way it is supposed to be. I just drove with it broken for so long without knowing...
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Old Apr 15, 2012 | 07:19 PM
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Those springs are notorious for breaking, I must of have replaced 4 of them on my 2001 Formula. I am surprised GM is still using that design to this day.
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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 07:14 AM
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Those springs are notorious for breaking, I must of have replaced 4 of them on my 2001 Formula. I am surprised GM is still using that design to this day.
My 01Z snapped a spring over the course of 49k miles of ownership. Never snapped the spring on my 06Z over 48k miles.
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For anyone who wants to RE-INSTALL a clutch spring, just check this thread:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ing-in-c6.html
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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 09:25 PM
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I've read many similar stories and wondered why I hadn't had the problem. After four years or more I looked at my spring and found it was broken but both pieces were still in place. No telling how long I drove it while it was broken. I replaced it and I really couldn't tell any difference. I think it's time to look at it again.
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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 11:52 PM
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hmm I've never looked up at it. 40 shomething thousand miles it could be broken and both peices still in place I guess I'll look at it in the am and see
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Originally Posted by Kerrdogg
Joe popped my spring at the last track outing, knocked a tenth off the 60 ft from better feel of the engagement point. I took the back roads home vs the hiway and did notice an increased pedal feel, however since I am a big boy and hardly ever wear heels any more my left calf will deal with it.
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Originally Posted by Ragtop 99
If it starts to feel heavy I'll get another spring.
Use a C5 spring; they are more robust. I replaced the broken one in my '05 around 25k and the C5 version I put in has lasted for the last 74k with no problems.
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Old Apr 20, 2012 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by LJD51
Use a C5 spring; they are more robust. I replaced the broken one in my '05 around 25k and the C5 version I put in has lasted for the last 74k with no problems.
Many people swap to this. Either way we would be more than happy to assist anyone with either one
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