Just installed Boze wheels, pressure sensors and Michelin Super Sports on my 12 Grand Sport. Used my programming tool but could not get the horn chirps like my 08 Z51. I am aware they changed sensor in 09, is there a new programing procedure for 09 thur 12? I searched this forum but didn't come up with any information.

 

you do need the correct tire pressure sensor. did you install the ones that came on the car or did you purchase another set (which might be aftermarket or old model)? do you know the color of the ones installed?
this is a good post #12 with vid..
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...post1580670182

 

with Dave - are you sure you got the correct sensors for your 2012?

Actually, they changed the TPMS computer and tire pressure sensors starting with the 2010 model, so if you got sensors for a 2009 then you got the old ones.

Like that post Dave referenced says, for a 2010 or newer you need the green or black sensors.

If you got aftermarket sensors then they have to be compatible with the 2010+ TPMS computer in the car, and the ones made by Dorman have been given poor reviews from several forum members who have tried them.

The procedure for programming them is exactly the same!!

What TPMS tool do you have??

If you have a simple tool that is designed to work with just the GM sensors, then you shouldn't be having any problems.

If you have a higher end tool that works with sensors used on many different manufacturer's cars, then it is programmed with many different codes that are required to trigger all those different sensors.

Our sensors only require a simple continuous wave transmission from the tool - no pulsed/coded signal is required as it is for many other cars.

A high end tool has a hunting mode where it searches for the proper protocol to trigger the sensor, and going through all the different protocols can take a couple minutes.

When you put the car into the learn mode you get a honk of the horn when you simultaneously push the "lock" and "unlock" buttons on the fob.

After you get that horn honk confirming you're in the learn mode, you only have about a minute to trigger the first (Left Front) sensor - if you don't trigger it before that minute is up the learn mode will drop out and you'll have to push both fob buttons again to get another honk.

If you have a TIPS or KTi, you can put the tool into the cw (continuous wave) mode before you start so it will trigger your sensors immediately.

If you have a GM J-46079 or an OTC 3833 that is not programmed with software up through at least the 2010 Corvette, then if you select "2005-2009 Corvette" on the menu on the screen, it won't work on the 2010+ sensors.

Probably the same thing for an ATEQ VT30 or higher that has a screen and a menu that requires you to select your vehicle, or any other high end tool with a screen and menu - if it's not programmed for at least model year 2010 then you may have a problem.

However, I have an OTC 3833 and tried it on a friend's 2012 C6 recently. My tool is only programmed through 2009 model year sensors, and initially it wouldn't trigger the sensors in his 2012 - exactly the same problem you're having.

Butt.....don't despair!! The TPMS computer in the 2010+ has been used in several other GM vehicles for a number of years, so I just selected one of them and was able to program all his sensors!!

So, if you have the GM tool or a 3833 that only has up through 2009 or earlier, just select a 2006 Impala or Monte Carlo and the tool will program your 2012 with no problem!!!

Good luck, and any further problems just let us know!

Bob

 

I just looked at the Boze site, and all their wheels look like, for cosmetic purposes, most styles probably have the valve stem hidden in the center or on the back/inside of the wheel.

Where is the tire pressure sensor mounted in your wheels - is is it mounted in the OE manner with the valve stem sticking out of the wheel???

If your sensors are not mounted in the OE manner, then they may be mounted deep inside your wheels with brackets, or possibly with bands/straps in the drop center of the wheel.

If so, then it's MUCH more difficult to trigger them!!!

The antenna of your tool needs to be within a couple inches of the sensor in order to trigger it. If the sensor is mounted deep inside the wheel, you've got a couple problems.

First, in order to get your tool's antenna close enough to trigger it, you need to know EXACTLY where the sensor is mounted, and if it's banded inside it could be anywhere around the circumference.

Second, even if you do know exactly where it is, with wide wheels you may not be able to get the antenna close enough. With the stock wheels you know where the sensor is because you can see the valve stem sticking out, and you put the antenna of the tool on the rubber sidewall of the tire right next to the sesor. Some owners with exotic aftermarket wheels have been able to trigger the sensor by putting the antenna on the middle of the tread right outside of where the sensor is located inside the wheel.

Another problem is that when the sensors are mounted deep inside the wheels the signal they transmit is attenuated somewhat by the wheel, so the signal received by the TPMS computer may be weaker than when they are mounted in the manner they're mounted in stock wheels.

Some owners of exotic wheels have needed to remove the wheels from the car and break the bead of the tire so they can stick their tool inside the tire to get the antenna close enough to trigger the sensor.

As mentioned, Chevy changed the TPMS computer in the car for the 2010 model, and it uses a different tire pressure sensor.

They installed a green sensor for the 2010 model, and also for a 2011 C6 built up through December 2010.

In January 2011 they switched to a black sensor (same TPMS in the car - all 2010 and newer C6's can use either the green or black sensor).

The black sensor must be triggered by using a TPMS tool that transmits the triggering signal.

However, the green sensors can be triggered by a tool, or by changing air pressure in the tire!!

If I had a 2010+ and was getting some exotic wheels that mounted the sensors deep inside the wheels, I would definitely get a set of the green sensors so I could just put the car into the learn mode and then let air out of each tire to get a horn honk during the programming procedure. With the green sensors you don't have to know where the sensors are, and you don't have the issue of trying to get the antenna close enough to trigger the sensor.

So....how are your sensors mounted, and if they are the green ones just change air pressure to trigger them.

Bob

 

Thanks to all for the good info and advice.
I have a BARTEC programer, I have used it on my 08 (with HRE's three piece wheels with hidden valve stem), on a 2010 with stock gumbies and on a 07 suburban, worked fine on all those different years.
Wheels and tires came mounted balanced etc. from Boze, sensors are banded in the center of the wheel next to where valve stem enters the center of the wheel (just like on my HRE's). They tell me that they purchased GM sensors for 2012 (I didn't ask what color). I will try adjusting the tire pressures and see if I can get the horn chirps. Is there still a 2 minute time limit to program all 4 sensors?

 

I have a set of guide books for info about working with sensors and TPMS on many different vehicles.

I just reviewed the C6 "learn procedure" and it says:

So....make sure you trigger the first sensor (Left Front) within 1 minute of putting the car into the learn mode, and make sure you complete the programming within 5 minutes.

If the change in air pressure doesn't work, try rotating the wheels so you can put the antenna of the tool on the middle of the tread right where the sensor is mounted, rather than the sidewall - that may get the antenna close enough to the sensor to trigger it.

Also - these TPMS tools eat batteries and the transmitted signal strength is a lot weaker when the batteries lose some power. Make sure you have strong fresh alkaline batteries in your tool.

Bob

 

Bob, your are a wealth of info, thanks for the great tips!
I have several track events coming up in the next couple months and will be swapping tires and wheels often so your tips will be a lot of help. Previously, I had no issues going through the side wall on Michelin PS2's mounted on 3 piece HRE's with hidden valve stem, its possible they may not have installed the correct sensors. I will try the air pressure procedure later today and see if that works.
Thanks!

 

Issue resolved, air pressure adjustment worked to program sensors.

 

EXCELLENT!!!!!

If the change in air pressure method worked then they are obviously the correct sensors - the green ones.

And, if your tool wasn't triggering them, I bet they're not mounted exactly where they said they're supposed to be - approximately isn't good enough, you need to know EXACTLY where they're mounted inside the wheel. If the antenna of the tool isn't within a couple inches of the sensor then it just won't trigger it.

Glad you got'em done!!

Bob