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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 01:58 PM
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Is it possible to bump the starter on a C6? For instance, if you want to get the motor at TDC? If I disconnect the coil packs, how long would the car crank for if I hit the start button?
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 02:12 PM
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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bump it and hit the stop button. Dan
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 06:29 PM
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I've read here that holding the accelerator to the floor will stop the car frrom firing.

Try it and let us know.
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 07:39 PM
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I've read here that holding the accelerator to the floor will stop the car frrom firing IMMEDIATELY.
How about trying that yourself? Engine will fire at WOT, just not right away, due to too much air. It'd hard start for a second and then BAM!, WOT. Maybe at freezing temperatures it wouldn't start, but ignition and fuel would be there, just like if you weren't touching the gas pedal. The worst thing you can do to a cold engine is starting it at WOT. By the way, that's how you clear a flooded engine, but you have to be quick to release the throttle when engine finally fires up. To provide a solution, I'd remove all spark plugs and turn over the engine manually.

As a side story, I proved that theory wrong accidentally with my new BMW bike. Read the same thing, and when accidentally left the throttle pinned after installing a throttlemeister, I thought I left something disconnected because bike wouldn't fire up right away, like usual. Tried again, and after a couple of seconds more than normal, BAM! Cold engine bouncing off the rev limiter. Geez. Took me a second to recover from the 'WTF happened' moment and kill the engine. The noise from the aftermarket exhaust at WOT inside the garage scared the crap out of me. Then immediately knew what I did. Live and learn.

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I did this when I did my rocker arms. I simply disconnected the single "plug in wire" on the starter solenoid. Connected a "bump" switch between this terminal and the positive post on the battery. Mine is a manual so it was in neutral and the ignition OFF! Simply bump the motor around as you wish the "old school way". Much easier than trying to get a wrench on the crank bolt.
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 10:06 PM
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Use a Bump Switch, it's not rocket science
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ZRCLONE
I did this when I did my rocker arms. I simply disconnected the single "plug in wire" on the starter solenoid. Connected a "bump" switch between this terminal and the positive post on the battery. Mine is a manual so it was in neutral and the ignition OFF! Simply bump the motor around as you wish the "old school way". Much easier than trying to get a wrench on the crank bolt.
I was wondering - if you connect a "bump" switch between this plug in terminal and the positive post on the battery - this will bypass the "depress clutch pedal/ depress the brake pedal switch on these C6's and actually turn the engine over like the "old school bumps"?
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Originally Posted by glenB
Use a Bump Switch, it's not rocket science
Nobody asked if it was rocket science, smart ***.

Always gotta be a troll who replies.
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Originally Posted by Redrocket1045
I was wondering - if you connect a "bump" switch between this plug in terminal and the positive post on the battery - this will bypass the "depress clutch pedal/ depress the brake pedal switch on these C6's and actually turn the engine over like the "old school bumps"?
That is exactly right. No need to do anything as you are overiding all the safety issues. Like I said, be sure if it is a Manual you are in "neutral" Auto can be in park. BUT BE SURE IGNITION IS OFF!
A small female spade connector is all that is needed on the single prong "male" on the starter. I simply opened it up a little, this way you would not need the exact same weatherpack plug as OEM. This is an 09 LS3, I am sure all are similar if not the same.
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Originally Posted by irok
bump it and hit the stop button. Dan
Thanks, this worked fine... just disconnect the coil pack multi-plug on each bank so it doesn't fire.
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Originally Posted by i_york
Nobody asked if it was rocket science, smart ***.

Always gotta be a troll who replies.
Smart *** maybe, but not a troll. How many posts do you have actually helping people rather than asking questions that are easily researched?

Using the starter button to set the pistons at TDC is not the answer. It may be the cheap answer you are looking for, in which case, have at it moron.
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Originally Posted by glenB
Smart *** maybe, but not a troll. How many posts do you have actually helping people rather than asking questions that are easily researched?

Using the starter button to set the pistons at TDC is not the answer. It may be the cheap answer you are looking for, in which case, have at it moron.
Ok, not a troll... just an idiot.

Some other helpful member before you came up with the actual answer to my question and, guess what? It didn't involve making a bump starter.
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 11:03 AM
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wow are you guys kidding me???? Go to fuse box under hood remove starter relay. Take jumper wire and put power from positive stud to term of of where you took relay out. Put relay back when done.
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Originally Posted by oneblackvette
wow are you guys kidding me???? Go to fuse box under hood remove starter relay. Take jumper wire and put power from positive stud to term of of where you took relay out. Put relay back when done.
Good to know, I did not want to take a chance f'n up any electrical system. So I went "old school".
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by i_york
Ok, not a troll... just an idiot.

Some other helpful member before you came up with the actual answer to my question and, guess what? It didn't involve making a bump starter.
I'm the idiot and you're the one asking stupid questions ....

Well here's another tip 'don't eat yellow snow'
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by oneblackvette
wow are you guys kidding me???? Go to fuse box under hood remove starter relay. Take jumper wire and put power from positive stud to term of of where you took relay out. Put relay back when done.
Which terminal .... ? Not for my sake, but for the OPs

Please respond before i_york breaks something, because I'm guessing that the 'i' stands for idiot
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standing on the passenger side, pull the crank relay four pins, left pin closest to the engine, right pin closest to you.
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