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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 07:54 PM
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I ordered a 2013 Grand Sport. Does anybody know of a company that makes removable 5 point harness brackets for the car? I am planning to take it on the track.
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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I bought mine from Vette Works.

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Having the belts go around the seat back instead of through it, is considered poor practice; I think most racing groups don't allow it.

But you can use the factory setup for safety, then put on the 5-point over it for keeping you from sliding around during corners.

Or take the easy way and use the Cinch feature on the factory belt. Not as good, but always there.
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The 6 point Corvette harness from Crow includes floor mounts and the harness ends are snap-on. You'd still need a harness bar to attach the shoulder belts.

Wayne O sent me some pics of his seat mods that allow the belts through. I took pics of mine when I did it. There is no evidence when they are removed. I'll post pics later today.

Really rough cuts, but my sabre saw wasn't home and I needed to get it done quickly to go racing. I'll clean it up some day. Maybe.


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something else to add, if your old like me...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...d-driving.html
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Several members of our club have these installed and like them. They leave the bar in all the time and just remove the harness straps if they want.

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Have you looked at CGLocks? They work GREAT at holding you in the seat during track days.
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Have you looked at CGLocks? They work GREAT at holding you in the seat during track days.
Can someone give a comparison of the CGLock vs the Cinch feature that comes on the car?
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Can someone give a comparison of the CGLock vs the Cinch feature that comes on the car?
They work together. You put the seat in the appropriate driving position then yank the sheet out of the shoulder belt to get the CGLock to lock the lap belt WAY tighter the just using the cars belt cinching feature. That way the cinching feature only has to hold your upper body.

It eliminates the need to hold yourself in place while you're hitting apexes. Works as advertised. The only thing better would be a properly installed 5-point with the seat holes & harness bar.
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They work together. You put the seat in the appropriate driving position then yank the sheet out of the shoulder belt to get the CGLock to lock the lap belt WAY tighter the just using the cars belt cinching feature. That way the cinching feature only has to hold your upper body.

It eliminates the need to hold yourself in place while you're hitting apexes. Works as advertised. The only thing better would be a properly installed 5-point with the seat holes & harness bar.
Wrong. Cinch holds both the lap belt and the shoulder belt tight since they are just one belt that goes through a slide at the buckle. Even with the CG lock the only way you can get the lap belt tight is to pull the shoulder belt tight so what you do is run the seat all the way to the rear, pull shoulder belt out all the way to put it into cinch mode, fasten the belts, pull the lap belt tight while shoving all slack into the shoulder belt take up reel. To get the lap belt and shoulder belt as tight as possible shove your body into the seat back. Once tight move the seat forward until the lap belt feels like it is cutting you in two. Lap and shoulder belt are tight enough that you can't move your butt in the seat and barely able to move your chest. The only thing you can get tighter is a great set of 6 point pull up race harnesses. CGLock can't get it any tighter so is just a waste of money. This is so easy it is literally easier than falling off the proverbial log.

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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Wrong. Cinch holds both the lap belt and the shoulder belt tight since they are just one belt that goes through a slide at the buckle. Even with the CG lock the only way you can get the lap belt tight is to pull the shoulder belt tight so what you do is run the seat all the way to the rear, pull shoulder belt out all the way to put it into cinch mode, fasten the belts, pull the lap belt tight while shoving all slack into the shoulder belt take up reel. To get the lap belt and shoulder belt as tight as possible shove your body into the seat back. Once tight move the seat forward until the lap belt feels like it is cutting you in two. Lap and shoulder belt are tight enough that you can't move your butt in the seat and barely able to move your chest. The only thing you can get tighter is a great set of 6 point pull up race harnesses. CGLock can't get it any tighter so is just a waste of money. This is so easy it is literally easier than falling off the proverbial log.

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You must be short & have the option to move the seat forward. Also, I've run stock belts with & without using the CGLock, the CGLock always allows me to get the belts tighter & maintain the correct driving position. At a fraction of the cost of adding a harness, IMO it's worth the $$$. You should try it before your knock it.
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Hmmm...

It will be interesting to see if we get more reviews of CG vs Cinch.
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Wrong. Cinch holds both the lap belt and the shoulder belt tight since they are just one belt that goes through a slide at the buckle. Even with the CG lock the only way you can get the lap belt tight is to pull the shoulder belt tight so what you do is run the seat all the way to the rear, pull shoulder belt out all the way to put it into cinch mode, fasten the belts, pull the lap belt tight while shoving all slack into the shoulder belt take up reel. To get the lap belt and shoulder belt as tight as possible shove your body into the seat back. Once tight move the seat forward until the lap belt feels like it is cutting you in two. Lap and shoulder belt are tight enough that you can't move your butt in the seat and barely able to move your chest. The only thing you can get tighter is a great set of 6 point pull up race harnesses. CGLock can't get it any tighter so is just a waste of money. This is so easy it is literally easier than falling off the proverbial log.

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I used to do it that way. One day I felt a slight "pop" in the seat as I was pushing back, and after that there was always an occasional slight movement in the seat. Similar to the slop/rocking that many people report, but from a different cause (me) in this case.

Now, I run the seat rearward to my Exit position but don't push with my feet. I lose a little bit of tightnes but consider it worth while to avoid damaging the seat system.
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Originally Posted by ///DarkSide\\\
You must be short & have the option to move the seat forward. Also, I've run stock belts with & without using the CGLock, the CGLock always allows me to get the belts tighter & maintain the correct driving position. At a fraction of the cost of adding a harness, IMO it's worth the $$$. You should try it before your knock it.
I am 5'9" so about average in height and I drape my wrists over the top of the steering wheel to make sure I am in the correct driving position. I don't know how big you are but I do know a lot of people don't sit close enough to the steering wheel to get proper leverage. If you aren't draping your wrists over the steering wheel you aren't close enough to the wheel.

Don't need to compare CG Lock since I get the lap and shoulder belts very tight. The way you are describing how you use the CG Lock is you use your hands to tighten the lap belt which means you aren't getting it very tight. One thing I do to get the belts tighter is when I have the seat all the way back I use the power seat switch to tilt it backwards a little. This allows me to feed some more belt slack back into the shoulder belt take up reel. Then I push the memory seat switch to move the seat forward into my driving position. I can feel the shoulder belt get tight as soon as the seat tilts forward and it just gets tighter from that point. When I am in position the shoulder belt is tight enough I have trouble getting my hand between the belt and my chest and the lap belt is so tight it hurts.

If I am giving a big person a ride I make sure their belts are tight by pulling the shoulder belt from outside the car while feeding the slack into the take up reel. From the outside I can use my full body weight to pull the shoulder belt through the buckle. That is a possible solution for you if you are tall and can't move the seat forward very much, have somebody pull the belts tight from outside.

Go out to your car and try what I am recommending. If you can't figure it out send me a PM and I will send you my phone number.

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Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim
I used to do it that way. One day I felt a slight "pop" in the seat as I was pushing back, and after that there was always an occasional slight movement in the seat. Similar to the slop/rocking that many people report, but from a different cause (me) in this case.

Now, I run the seat rearward to my Exit position but don't push with my feet. I lose a little bit of tightnes but consider it worth while to avoid damaging the seat system.
I just started shoving into the seat back this year. The C6Z seats didn't come with Lumbar support bladders until a couple of years after my car was made. Without the bladders there really wasn't much reason to do shove myself backwards into the seat back cushion. This spring I added the Sport Seat Lumbar supports to the seats and I found I could really reduce body movement in the seat by inflating the side bolsters to the maximum and making sure my body was deep in the seat so the bolster provided more lateral support. I used the stock seats for the last 3 track events of the season and when I finished each two day event my ribs were sore where the bolsters were contacting them.

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