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Old Dec 28, 2012 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by StatenZ51
Wow thank you everyone for the great information. The more I learn the more questions i have.
1) what is the clutch spring for?
2) what is the "feel" difference between spring and no spring?
3) do i want the lightweight flywheel?

Joe G: If i put the car in 5th gear at a low speed the rpm's climb, the car does not "bog down" as it normally would. Also It smells like hot clutch when i get out.
That is a bad fact pattern. That normally means your clutch is shot.

You should clean the fluid as I linked above, it's possible your slave is stuck not releasing all the way and you might get it cleaned out.

I'm not optimistic but you have nothing to lose but a $4 bottle of Dot 4 and a few minutes of your time.
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Old Dec 28, 2012 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by StatenZ51
Wow thank you everyone for the great information. The more I learn the more questions i have.
1) what is the clutch spring for?
2) what is the "feel" difference between spring and no spring?
3) do i want the lightweight flywheel?

Joe G: If i put the car in 5th gear at a low speed the rpm's climb, the car does not "bog down" as it normally would. Also It smells like hot clutch when i get out.
The spring is under the dash connected to the pedal.. It's a assist spring to make the pedal feel lighter.. From my experience I prefer leaving it in(seems to be a 50/50 on yays and nays).. I want to re install mine and they are a bitch to get back in.. I wouldn't remove it until you test drive one w/out.

Typically people will recommend a steel flywheel over a light weight aluminum if you drag race and lighter for road coarse.. Steel will rev slower eat some HP compared to aluminum but the steel well help keep your rpms up on hard launches..(If someone feels I am wrong on this feel free to correct me)
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Old Dec 28, 2012 | 08:02 PM
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John with what you said 100%; however, I love my aluminum FW.
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Old Dec 28, 2012 | 08:04 PM
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OP- A steel FW will most likely be better for your application and will be easier to launch.
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Old Dec 29, 2012 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
All Corvettes use the same 14" diameter flywheel 6 bolt EXCEPT for the LS9(ZR1) and LSa engines(Caddy and Camaro). They are also 14" but the LSa is a 8 bolt and the LS9 is a 9 bolt.

Z06 clutch will fit the LS2/3 with no new flywheel required.

If you want to use the twin disc clutch from the LS9, you must purchase a new flywheel that will match the twin disc pressure plate but has 6 holes to match the LS2/3/7 crankshaft. Using the LS9 clutch also requires using the LS9 slave cylinder.

Several aftermarket companies sell a complete package(clutch, flywheel, slave cylinder) to allow the LS2/3/7 owner to use the LS9 twin disc clutch. There are two different LS9 clutches, one has a little more clamping pressure. The LS9 clutch works perfect for street driving. No light bulb on/off or chatter.
I would agree with Joe on this with one tiny exception, it is not as easy to modulate the LS9 clutch on the LS3 as the stock clutch. While not an on/off switch that many aftermarket clutches are it is still grabby.
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Old Dec 29, 2012 | 01:56 AM
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I have the Katech LS9R twin disk and if given the chance to buy again I would not get it and get a BC2 or RXT

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Old Dec 29, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TMyers
I would agree with Joe on this with one tiny exception, it is not as easy to modulate the LS9 clutch on the LS3 as the stock clutch. While not an on/off switch that many aftermarket clutches are it is still grabby.
While I have never driven a car with the ZR1 clutch, I have a couple of friends with ZR1's and they have never had a problem with a grabby clutch.

Why would a LS9 clutch operate any different behind a LS3 or LS7 vs a LS9?
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Old Dec 29, 2012 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
While I have never driven a car with the ZR1 clutch, I have a couple of friends with ZR1's and they have never had a problem with a grabby clutch.

Why would a LS9 clutch operate any different behind a LS3 or LS7 vs a LS9?
I have a Katech LS9X in my car. It is not as easy as a stock clutch to modulate. Still easier than cars I have driving with other aftermarket clutch systems. I have had it for a little over a year now.

As for why it is different I can't say because I have not driven a ZR1 or a Z06 with a LS9 clutch installed. I am just saying there is a diference between a stock LS3 clutch and the LS9 setup. Twin disk, lighter setup, more grabbing power or just my imagination.
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What does it mean to modulate a clutch as stated by above poster TMyers?
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Old Dec 30, 2012 | 07:53 AM
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I have a Z06 clutch for sale Only 12600 miles use.
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Originally Posted by StatenZ51
What does it mean to modulate a clutch as stated by above poster TMyers?
Modulate refers to the ability to slip the clutch whether it is starting from a stop at a traffic light or launching at the drag strip. Some clutches can chatter due to their design and friction material. This would be unfriendly for street applications. In any event, you would not an On/Off switch type of clutch for your Vette.
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