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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 10:48 AM
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I have 08 with npp exhaust will removing the cats have much gain?
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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 11:11 AM
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Yes you defiantely will, you will gain alot more noise and drone. lol. But in fact you might gain just a few hp at the most, Now a gain is a gain so in the end they all add up but might be better just to get some High flow cats, gain a couple hp and still keep the gas smell from being too bad.
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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 12:11 PM
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No cats here with NPP and no drone either. Enjoy!!!
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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by S'vette
Yes you defiantely will, you will gain alot more noise and drone. lol. But in fact you might gain just a few hp at the most, Now a gain is a gain so in the end they all add up but might be better just to get some High flow cats, gain a couple hp and still keep the gas smell from being too bad.
AND be legal.
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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 01:28 PM
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What about headers and leave the rest of the exhaust stock? A friend was telling me he thought about 15hp gain.. but i guess thats not the case. plus the smell.
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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo87
What about headers and leave the rest of the exhaust stock? A friend was telling me he thought about 15hp gain.. but i guess thats not the case. plus the smell.
IMHO, best solution are headers with hi-flow cats & aftermarket exhaust...especially in states with exhaust inspection regulations. I'm running AR headers with their hi-flow cats & Corsa Sport mufflers plus a tune from ECS here in NJ. Again, IMHO, the tune is absolutely necessary to get the best out of an engine or exhaust mod.
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1-7/8" KOOKS Lt's with Catless 3" X to 3" B&B Bullets.. I dunno know if it drones, its too loud to tell.. But if you pull cats one thing is for sure.
"You gain a new dash illumination"..
Ha ha..
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Maybe i just just leave the exhaust alone,and get a tune.
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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo87
Maybe i just just leave the exhaust alone,and get a tune.
If you do the tune get some long tube headers too and you will see a good 30+ to the wheels.
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I've been there and back. It's not worth it!
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you can always rewrite the ecu with the stock tune. I'm usng the Halltech ECT tuner, you'll get the tune with it from Jim Hall. Alternately get a tuner suggested by Tom Wong, then get him to get your tune setup.
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Modern exhaust systems are pretty efficient. Time and effort is much better spent elsewhere, as others have suggested. If you ultimately decided to remove them, you can buy direct-fit test pipes that bolt right in place of the converters.
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Keep the cats the gain without them is not significant.

Long tube headers with cats are high flow anyway and will not last as long as the OEM cats.
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no cats will get a code won't it?
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Yep, that is what I meant when I said you get dash illumination.. "Check Engine" in minutes after start-up.
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The most I'd do if you don't live in CA is remove the extra cats added in 2012 to meet CA emissions, by replacing the catted X-pipe with a 2011 one. But no so much for extra HP, but the extra damn heat under the center tunnel. Engine is very clean with the regular cats, and that's how the LS3 was tuned for.
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Originally Posted by carpe dm
AND be legal.
Actually, not legal. To be legal the cats must be in the exact factory location. High flows never are.
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Originally Posted by 6Speeder
Actually, not legal. To be legal the cats must be in the exact factory location. High flows never are.


No Longtube setup is legal.
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Because it moves the cats to far back to heat up properly.
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If you do the tune get some long tube headers too and you will see a good 30+ to the wheels.
Try +40 to the wheels with our new Pfadt Tri-Y headers!
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