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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 03:12 PM
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Ive decided to go N/A h/c/i set up.
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Going with a 224/230/114 cam....so my question is this......
Ported 243 heads vs. trick flow 225's,what hp differances would I see w/ this set up?worth the extra cost?
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 03:24 PM
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Have you considered CNC LS3 heads? You will need an intake, but the market for LS2 FAST intakes I think is pretty good.
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 03:32 PM
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Hadn't really just because of the ported tb/fast. I also know that cathedral ports make good torque. How well do the ls3 heads flow as compared to the others?
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by C U IN REARVEIW
Hadn't really just because of the ported tb/fast. I also know that cathedral ports make good torque. How well do the ls3 heads flow as compared to the others?
I use to know all that. All I recall is that stock LS3 head flow more than really good LS2 heads.

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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...-flow-s-2.html
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 07:15 PM
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I wil update my thread in a few weeks once my TFS heads come in. You'll be able to compare AI vs TFS gains. Same car, same cam and same dyno. Look up my thread.
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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Hey jay,Ive been following your thread. I thought you were running a bigger cam than the (224/230/114) that i'm looking at? We are running very similar mods and am looking for as close to 500hp I can get w/ very streetable manners.
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 09:21 PM
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Anyone else?
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Originally Posted by C U IN REARVEIW
Hadn't really just because of the ported tb/fast. I also know that cathedral ports make good torque. How well do the ls3 heads flow as compared to the others?
As part of my engine build, I had my LS3 heads hand ported and polished by a guy that's been doing these for a long time. Found this old scan on my computer.

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What are the lift points for those flow numbers? What size intake port? Who did them?
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Flow numbers are for advertising ......
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What are the lift points for those flow numbers? What size intake port? Who did them?
I'll look for the flow test paperwork and post it if I can find it. The gentlemans name is Cory - he's recently opened up a shop with a partner called Colorado Speed and Performance.
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Flow numbers are for advertising ......
Ya, because air entering and exiting the system have no bearing on performance.
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Ya, because air entering and exiting the system have no bearing on performance.
Actually, if you knew half of what you think you do then you wouldn't make such statements.say. There are things called air speed, tumble etc that contribute to a quality port job. If having a big airflow number was all you needed then we'd all be running around with 300cc ports. An example is AFRs 205 cc port that competes with heads having 220 or bigger ports and beats them.

Do your homework next time before replying.
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Originally Posted by glenB
Actually, if you knew half of what you think you do then you wouldn't make such statements.say. There are things called air speed, tumble etc that contribute to a quality port job. If having a big airflow number was all you needed then we'd all be running around with 300cc ports. An example is AFRs 205 cc port that competes with heads having 220 or bigger ports and beats them.

Do your homework next time before replying.
Really, who'd of thunk it? You mean porting and polishing done precisely has a positive impact on airflow and ....... performance? Whoa...................

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Really, who'd of thunk it? You mean porting and polishing done precisely has a positive impact on airflow and ....... performance? Whoa...................
Glad you're so smart, it doesn't show. While I never said he didn't do a good job, only that flow numbers don't tell the whole story and are used simply for bench racing, why don't you have your guy give you the flow coefficient and then we'll get a better idea of the work.

Poor edit by the way, and porting and polishing, what are you 10?
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Ported 243 heads vs. trick flow 225's,what hp differances would I see w/ this set up?worth the extra cost?
From my experience - with TFS 225's you will see more torque (10-15 lb ft) through the mid - range (2500-5000) and 5-10 HP peak power over the standard CNC ported 243. The gap narrows a little if you opt for 2.05 intake valves in the 243's
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From my experience - with TFS 225's you will see more torque (10-15 lb ft) through the mid - range (2500-5000) and 5-10 HP peak power over the standard CNC ported 243. The gap narrows a little if you opt for 2.05 intake valves in the 243's
also, IMO, stay away from the LS3 head conversion.
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Originally Posted by glenB
Glad you're so smart, it doesn't show. While I never said he didn't do a good job, only that flow numbers don't tell the whole story and are used simply for bench racing, why don't you have your guy give you the flow coefficient and then we'll get a better idea of the work.

Poor edit by the way, and porting and polishing, what are you 10?
Wow......your brilliance is amazing. Who said you said he "didn't go a good job"? No one, except you. But, by all means - continue to illuminate......it's absolutely breathtaking. According to you, flow doesn't matter - "it's only for advertising". Based on your statement, maybe we should all go to a 50cc head - cuz it's all just for advertising, right? Apparently all those porting/polishing/cnc'ing their heads are wasting their money.

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Original poster, I was where you are a few months ago. Here is what I went with: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ni-review.html

My custom cam is being made right now. It will be here shortly and all of this will finally be going together. Just a few more pieces...
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Wow......your brilliance is amazing. Who said you said he "didn't go a good job"? No one, except you. But, by all means - continue to illuminate......it's absolutely breathtaking. According to you, flow doesn't matter - "it's only for advertising". Based on your statement, maybe we should all go to a 50cc head - cuz it's all just for advertising, right? Apparently all those porting/polishing/cnc'ing their heads are wasting their money.
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