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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 01:21 AM
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Speedline is a foundry, not a forge...they cast aluminum wheels, they don't forge them.
Speedline has manufactured thousands upon thousands of forged wheels. google is your friend when you dont know things
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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I may be wrong, it would not be the first time, but I have not seen anything from the company that says Speedline makes forged wheels. The '07 chrome 'wagon wheel' on the C6 was cast by Speedline...it is obvious by looking at the inside of the wheel...all the writing identifying the different specs is cast into the mating hub area of that wheel. The only wheel on a C6 that was forged was the gumby, which was forged by Superalloy in Taiwan.

Also, I know that Google is my friend...I'm interested in having a discussion, not a nastiness contest.
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Originally Posted by cclive
I may be wrong, it would not be the first time, but I have not seen anything from the company that says Speedline makes forged wheels. The '07 chrome 'wagon wheel' on the C6 was cast by Speedline...it is obvious by looking at the inside of the wheel...all the writing identifying the different specs is cast into the mating hub area of that wheel. The only wheel on a C6 that was forged was the gumby, which was forged by Superalloy in Taiwan.

Also, I know that Google is my friend...I'm interested in having a discussion, not a nastiness contest.
google it and you will know that Speedline manufactures forged wheels
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 02:26 PM
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Ha ha, good one.

The seven spoke chrome wheel of that era were advertised as forged as well, FYI.
I have these 7 spoke wheels on my car. What is the advantage of Forged wheels?
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ls1121
I have these 7 spoke wheels on my car. What is the advantage of Forged wheels?
It has been said that forging results in a tougher/stronger alloy wheel vs. cast wheels. Cast wheels are softer and the rim is prone to bending if you hit a pothole. I've heard this happening to OZ wheels, which are cast. I've yet to bend a rim on my Gumby's, and they've done battle with some formidable potholes.
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Gumby
It has been said that forging results in a tougher/stronger alloy wheel vs. cast wheels. Cast wheels are softer and the rim is prone to bending if you hit a pothole. I've heard this happening to OZ wheels, which are cast. I've yet to bend a rim on my Gumby's, and they've done battle with some formidable potholes.
That is correct, but the question today is "how much better is forged?"
Modern casting techniques are much better than when I was a kid.
I've weighed several different sets of C6 wheels, both cast and forged. The weights are virtually identical, for street usage I would expect GM to save some weight with the forged wheels if it was practical.

All else being equal, I would prefer forged. But for street/A-X/HPDE use, the GM Corvette cast wheels seem to work very well. From other suppliers, maybe not so true.

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Thread with some good information. I posted this when I cracked a wheel on the Charlotte Motor Speedway. It's not a gumby but at the time I thought it was.


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/auto...nasa-hpde.html
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Originally Posted by 96Corvette96
Thread with some good information. I posted this when I cracked a wheel on the Charlotte Motor Speedway. It's not a gumby but at the time I thought it was.


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/auto...nasa-hpde.html
Wow, that was worth the read. Thanks for posting. It would seem both cast and forged have reported failures. What's a fellow to do?
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Old Mar 18, 2013 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Gumby
Wow, that was worth the read. Thanks for posting. It would seem both cast and forged have reported failures. What's a fellow to do?
I think that what a fellow should do is not worry about wheel failures. Yes, every once in a while we hear about one, but they are exceedingly rare. When a cast wheel is struck and cracked, we have no idea whatsoever whether a forged wheel subjected to that same blow would have survived or not. We have no idea whether one particular pothole would have bent any wheel or not. All the oem wheels are far stronger than normal use would require, so we should be happy and enjoy whatever wheels we like the looks of.
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Originally Posted by cclive
I think that what a fellow should do is not worry about wheel failures. Yes, every once in a while we hear about one, but they are exceedingly rare. When a cast wheel is struck and cracked, we have no idea whatsoever whether a forged wheel subjected to that same blow would have survived or not. We have no idea whether one particular pothole would have bent any wheel or not. All the oem wheels are far stronger than normal use would require, so we should be happy and enjoy whatever wheels we like the looks of.
People ask questions that is how we learn. Are you suggesting that we not ask questions??
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People ask questions that is how we learn. Are you suggesting that we not ask questions??
Not at all...I think any discussion is a good thing. I was only suggesting a resolution after we started a discussion. He asked what's a fellow to do, and I offered an answer. I wanted to express the point that anecdotal evidence ("I have XXX wheels and XXX happened to one and it survived, or didn't survive") is limited in its' value. Unless we actually do destructive testing of wheels, which we can't, we will never know the intricasies of how a cast wheel behaves compared to a forged wheel when one is involved in some sort of impact. Other than the one wheel shown above, I have never seen any C6 wheel crack in any situation other than a fairly severe accident. Compared to all the other sources of problems, this is a very minor area of concern. This is why I suggested not to worry about it.
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I would also agree under normal situations, wheels hold up well. My cracked cast wheel (3 out of 5 spokes) happened while transitioning back on the Charlotte Motor Speedway in turn 1. I just wanted to point out if you enter the track too soon from the infield….. Your front right wheel just may not survive the transition. Passing on the knowledge.
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