2012 GS Centennial won't -always- start
Jumping the car starts it every time.
Floored-clutch, shifter in a neutral, unengaged center.. pressing Engine Start will have the gauges sweep and initialize, lights, radio, all come on, but the engine doesn't turn. After several presses, usually under 6, one every 5 seconds or so, it'll turn over as the starter seems to engage.
Checked the Starter Fuse #30 and it's good. Checked the battery giving it a full diagnostic (second battery since birth) and it's fully charged (I still have the printout, 700 out of 680). While running, alternator shows 13.8 on the gauge cluster, when trying to start, it's around 12.8. There's no appreciative dip from the draw when starting.
Disconnecting and reconnecting the battery leads does not always solve the problem.
The only solution is repeated presses and re-engaging the clutch several times. It's started on the first try a few times, and usually starts on the 3rd.
Running a computer diagnostic at a shop indicated no short in the system.
I noticed the alternator has 4 wires connected of which one seems snipped-off (orange) as if it was an afterthought (the plastic casing of the thin-gauge wire is still in the harness but there's no copper actual wire there, nor is there a lead connecting from the black-wrapped other three wires). I suspect it's not a vital wire in the harness as everything works great other than starting, but it's a bit unusual. It doesn't seem there was a wire ever there but there is a casing still in the alternator's wiring harness for one. Odd.
On a side note, I noticed that the passenger side mirror doesn't auto-dim.
The car handles fine, everything works perfectly, it's just this little gremlin. I've read posts on the matter and the steering-lock column seems to possibly be the culprit. Playing the steering wheel a bit while trying to start the car by centering it doesn't seem to make an impact, but it's hard to tell.
Suggestions?
You didn't say if you bought the car new and just started doing this. Or if you just bought the car and found that 'feature'
. At any rate, if you're absolutely sure the battery is fine, it sounds like a clutch switch issue to me. Did you try reading codes with a scanner? I'd start there. If the car didn't recognize the fob, it wouldn't switch to ignition mode. Hope somebody with better knowledge of your issue chimes in. Good luck.EDIT: Now that I think of it, my car also failed to crank a couple of times when new. I only heard that litany of relay noise behind the start switch. But it started fine the second time. I was baffled too. After much research, I chalked it off to interference, since there were high-power lines above me in those 2 occasions. Are you getting that relay noise when pushing the start button?
Last edited by JCtx; May 13, 2013 at 08:13 PM.
I am curious if the next time it happens, can you try pressing the off and releasing the clutch then depress the clutch and try again? That is what I did each time as soon as it happened and it started right up the next press. Curious if you have the same results.
Oh, and there's no relay on the clutch 'switch'. Unfortunately, the clutch 'switch' is not a switch, but a rheostat, probably due to launch control (can't think of anything else, since this car does not have the 'hill climb' feature). But if you FULLY depress the clutch pedal, that shouldn't be the issue.
Finally, remember the keyless ignition on this car is FAR from perfect. It might not recognize the key all of a sudden due to interference. Or some other electronic gremlin like that. My stupid car 'bongs' like if I had left the lights on when I open a door very often, and it's plain embarrassing when you have a passenger. And it just doesn't shut off. It supposedly happens if you don't run away from the car when you shut the engine off. How stupid is that? And if you open a locked door, obviously with a fob in your pocket, why the hell does it have to bong? With that stupid behavior, it just doesn't surprise me we also have random issues like the one we're discussing. Oh, and I always have my battery fully charged, so that's not the issue, at least in my case. Good luck, and keep us posted.
Last edited by JCtx; May 16, 2013 at 02:41 PM.
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I can't think of anything I did differently except making sure I mashed the clutch deep to the firewall super-hard. Been starting like a charm ever since.
Sometimes the car will bong if, yes, I don't run away from her immediately after stopping, like if I get out and park, then change my mind, go back in and re-start, I get a few annoyed "bongs" like, "Why can't you make up your mind?" Funny.
I have a bit of a blog that talks about my adventure of getting her from Wisconsin in detail if anyone's interested:
http://mikecronis.blogspot.com/2013/...al-part-1.html







