C6 Tech/Performance LS2, LS3, LS7, LS9 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

HP decrease with tune - WTF

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 11, 2013 | 10:21 AM
  #1  
Sunset Orng 05's Avatar
Sunset Orng 05
Thread Starter
Pro
15 Year Member
Veteran: Marine Corps
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 605
Likes: 28
From: Havelock North Carolina
Default HP decrease with tune - WTF

In March I had my A4, C6 tuned at a not so local performance shop. At that time the only mods I had were a Corsa Cat-back exhaust and a CAI. At that time it pulled 353hp and 353tq. Not much of a gain but all I was really looking for was a quicker throttle response time, which I got. Last week, after installing long tube headers with hi-flow cats I took it back to the same shop for an update. To my surprise the hp dropped to 350 but the tq went up slightly to 354. That didn't seem right so I asked the guy about it and he blamed it on the humidity. I was under the impression that they were supposed to adjust the dyno to compensate for the weather conditions. After reading post on this forum about gains after adding headers I'm thinking I should have gotten more. The shop is about 3 hours away so I just can't keep running back and forth. I chose that shop based upon a forum members recommendation and the many positive reviews I found when I did a search. Bottom line - am I right to be concerned that something was amiss or should I just let it die and accept those numbers?
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2013 | 10:36 AM
  #2  
eboggs_jkvl's Avatar
eboggs_jkvl
Moderator emeritus
20 Year Member
Veteran: Army
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 18,599
Likes: 3,951
From: Jacksonville Florida BWO Dayton, Cincinnati, Bloomsbury NJ, Cincinnati
2015 C7 of the Year Finalist
Default

March is cold and August is hot. You lost 3 HP but picked up 1 in torque. Sounds like you are a victim of the summer heat for your numbers.


The A/F and KR are the controlling factors in tuning. You can only do so much when those numbers are at the limits.

Elmer
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2013 | 07:10 PM
  #3  
haljensen's Avatar
haljensen
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 10,399
Likes: 25
From: Austin Texas
Default

The Dyno can't compensate for your ECM pulling timing and adjusting fuel for intake air temperature changes and coolant temp changes.

Wait until temps go down in the fall and dyno it again, you'll see differences then.
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2013 | 11:08 AM
  #4  
DocHorton's Avatar
DocHorton
Racer
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 480
Likes: 0
From: DFW TX
Default

I wouldn't think the heat would suck up 30+ hp or around 10%. Does the car feel any faster?
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2013 | 11:13 AM
  #5  
Gabbiani's Avatar
Gabbiani
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 326
Likes: 0
From: Norman OK
Default

Got the graph? They sometimes have the correction factors on it.

Type of dyno?

Does it feel any different?
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2013 | 11:13 AM
  #6  
Gabbiani's Avatar
Gabbiani
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 326
Likes: 0
From: Norman OK
Default

Got the graph? They sometimes have the correction factors on it.

Type of dyno?

Does it feel any different?
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2013 | 11:21 AM
  #7  
John harlen's Avatar
John harlen
Instructor
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
Default

There is also the possibility you did something wrong.
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2013 | 02:00 PM
  #8  
Sunset Orng 05's Avatar
Sunset Orng 05
Thread Starter
Pro
15 Year Member
Veteran: Marine Corps
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 605
Likes: 28
From: Havelock North Carolina
Default

Originally Posted by DocHorton
I wouldn't think the heat would suck up 30+ hp or around 10%. Does the car feel any faster?
Sounds much louder but the jury is still out on the faster part. I haven't had a chance to try it out due to poor road conditions.

Originally Posted by Gabbiani
Got the graph? They sometimes have the correction factors on it.

Type of dyno?

Does it feel any different?
The graph does have the conversion factors listed and the outside temp was 20º different. I think it was a dynojet.

Originally Posted by John harlen
There is also the possibility you did something wrong.
For example? Of course, that possibility always exist but installing headers isn't that hard of a thing to do although I did have to have new O2 bungs put in since the ones on the header were the wrong size.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Aug 12, 2013 | 03:59 PM
  #9  
Turbooo2u's Avatar
Turbooo2u
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 6,714
Likes: 6
From: Providence RI
Default

Is your C6 equipped with an LS2 or LS3??
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2013 | 04:01 PM
  #10  
eboggs_jkvl's Avatar
eboggs_jkvl
Moderator emeritus
20 Year Member
Veteran: Army
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 18,599
Likes: 3,951
From: Jacksonville Florida BWO Dayton, Cincinnati, Bloomsbury NJ, Cincinnati
2015 C7 of the Year Finalist
Default

Originally Posted by Turbooo2u
Is your C6 equipped with an LS2 or LS3??
05 is an LS2 unless he changed out the engine.

Elmer
Reply
Old Aug 12, 2013 | 06:54 PM
  #11  
John harlen's Avatar
John harlen
Instructor
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
Default

You may have damaged a plug wire, one may not be connected properly, there may be an exhaust leak, etc.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To HP decrease with tune - WTF





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:29 AM.

story-0
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-2
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE