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Old Aug 17, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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Will this work for our vettes?

Motive Products 0108 GM Late Model Car/Truck Power Bleeder.

$49.99 from Jegs.
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Old Aug 17, 2013 | 08:25 PM
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I just use a water bottle and 3ft of vacuum hose.
  1. With a razor just put a small hole in the cap of the water bottle just large enough to snugly fit the hose through and allow fluid flow.
  2. Twist cap onto the bottle and adjust the hose to be about 1/4 from the bottom.
  3. Hook up to bleeder, set bottle in a position where the hose stays submurged in fluid, lossen zerk, pump brakes, lock zerk, check fluid level & add as needed.
  4. Continue until you get CLEAN fluid and all air is removed.

Cost is about 3 bucks plus the DOT 4 fluid.

When bottle is full I just move my Cap/hose to a new bottle and use the new cap to seal the bottle of used fluid.

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Old Aug 17, 2013 | 09:33 PM
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Yes, I have that works great, worth every penny! Fits right on the newer gm plastic reservoirs.
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Old Aug 17, 2013 | 11:05 PM
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I use mine all the time for flushing and bleeding.

I don't put fluid into the jug - I just use it as a pressures source.

I only need to pump it up to 8 to 10 psi to get a good flow out of the bleed valves.

Just check your master cylinder often so you make sure you don't run it dry.

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Old Aug 17, 2013 | 11:14 PM
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I have never used one... I can see that making bleeding breaks quicker than pumping the brake pedel each time...

I wonder if the difference between methods can be felt??? If so I may have to invest in one of those...

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Air ram, yes, I was never happy with the pedal on my 68 camaro until I used this product. Plus it makes it real easy to flush out the whole system with fresh fluid since you don't have to keep refilling the master cyl or risk running it dry as easily... Well, without a tech2 to cycle the abs I can't get all of it, but most of it gets flushed.

I've loaned mine to a few friends, most of them go out and buy one after using it.

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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 12:15 AM
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How do you completely flush a brake system at home on a car with ABS?
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 01:17 AM
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How do you completely flush a brake system at home on a car with ABS?
Below is what I ordered and about to use it on my brakes and hydraulic clutch system.

http://www.autoaccessoriesgarage.com...FUuk4AodcV8A8Q
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As far as opening up ABS...flush brake fluid then find a desolate straight stretch and stomp the brakes to activate the ABS about 10-12 times then go back and re-bleed all 4 brakes. Yes it's more fluid...yes it's more work...but I'd much rather do it this way than take it to the dealer for them to do god knows what.
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 02:23 PM
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I've had one for over 10 years. Works great and it's nice not needing two people.
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 68sixspeed
Yes, I have that works great, worth every penny! Fits right on the newer gm plastic reservoirs.
Same here.
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Originally Posted by LFZ
As far as opening up ABS...flush brake fluid then find a desolate straight stretch and stomp the brakes to activate the ABS about 10-12 times then go back and re-bleed all 4 brakes. Yes it's more fluid...yes it's more work...but I'd much rather do it this way than take it to the dealer for them to do god knows what.
That's too much work.


Someone needs to make some inexpensive tool or figure out how to open the ABS like a dealer can do.
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Old Aug 20, 2013 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bosco 08
That's too much work.


Someone needs to make some inexpensive tool or figure out how to open the ABS like a dealer can do.
There is so little fluid in the ABS system that it's not worth losing sleep over. If you use your car on a road course, more than likely you'll use the ABS from time to time while threshold braking. As such, the ABS system will always have relatively fresh fluid in it.

I *think* (hopefully someone can confirm or deny) that the ABS unit cycles at start-up, so that also somewhat circulates fluid if true.
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Old Aug 27, 2013 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
I *think* (hopefully someone can confirm or deny) that the ABS unit cycles at start-up, so that also somewhat circulates fluid if true.
Man, I'd really like to know if that's true. I sent the calipers from my new '13 GS out to be powdercoated, and pretty much drained the system because I'm dumb. Basically, this was the first time I ever even touched brake fluid. After removing the FR caliper and finding myself ill-equipped to stop the flow out of that line, I put plastic wrap over the reservoir and put the cap over that. Then I did all the other calipers, and some fluid drained from each.

When I get the calipers back I get to bleed brakes for the first time. I'm not sure if there'll be air in the ABS or not, but if there is, I've heard it can be a major concern requiring a visit to the dealer. This product sounds like it'd be worth the $50, but it also sounds like I might need to give some more attention to the ABS...

So, does anyone know if the ABS cycles at startup?
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Old Aug 27, 2013 | 03:01 PM
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be carefull, putting too much pressure on the brake system can damage the EBCM as long as the system is not overly pressurized you will be ok (less than psi). I have always done it with a water bottle and a vac. hose. as long as you don't let the master run dry& induce air, you can flush the system BY YOURSELF, I have done this countless times at the track between heats in my SCCA days .
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Great product. I wish they made a cap for the clutch to bleed the clutch too.
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