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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 08:25 PM
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I have a 2008 coupe that is a semi-daily driver. I drive it most days but sometimes it sits for a week or 2. I bought a battery maintainer to keep it in good shape when it's going to sit for a while. I periodically check the battery voltage with a multimeter and it is usually in the 12.3 to 12.5 range. Once it was up to 12.7 but that's tops. Is this acceptable? I should say that I never have a problem starting the car -- just a little paranoid after reading about all the battery failures.
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At 12.2 you are at 50% state of charge.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/a...tate_of_charge
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At 12.2 you are at 50% state of charge.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/a...tate_of_charge
True, but an accurate measure is right at the battery with the negative terminal disconnected from the car. Depending on the car, the draw on the battery can make it appear lower than it really is. The DIC voltage is only valid when the car is running. If the engine is not running, the car's systems are drawing significantly when the DIC is available.
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Originally Posted by cclive
True, but an accurate measure is right at the battery with the negative terminal disconnected from the car. Depending on the car, the draw on the battery can make it appear lower than it really is. The DIC voltage is only valid when the car is running. If the engine is not running, the car's systems are drawing significantly when the DIC is available.
GM has a 45 day stand test that the battery has to pass, so based on what he said, the battery is not getting fully charged. Trust me, I had 4 battery engineers working for me when I sold batteries to the car companies. The receiving SOC was 12.75 and the car had to have 12.65 when it left the plant.
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Old Oct 7, 2014 | 10:11 PM
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So it's tough to get a real accurate reading. Temperature is a factor and it's impractical to routinely disconnect the battery just to keep an eye on it. I guess I'll just assume the range I'm getting is OK.
Thanks for the quick responses.
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GM has a 45 day stand test that the battery has to pass, so based on what he said, the battery is not getting fully charged. Trust me, I had 4 battery engineers working for me when I sold batteries to the car companies. The receiving SOC was 12.75 and the car had to have 12.65 when it left the plant.
I don't disagree at all...my only point is that to get an accurate measurement, he needs to check the battery without any load on it and he may not be doing this.
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I don't disagree at all...my only point is that to get an accurate measurement, he needs to check the battery without any load on it and he may not be doing this.
I have not checked the voltage with the battery disconnected. I'll try that tomorrow to see how different the reading is.
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I have not checked the voltage with the battery disconnected. I'll try that tomorrow to see how different the reading is.
OK. The car has been sitting for 2 days with the battery maintainer connected. I disconnected the maintainer and the voltage was 12.48 across the battery with the cables connected. I removed the negative cable and the voltage was 12.49. Only 1/100th volt difference.

I hooked up the negative cable again and the voltage dropped to 12.40. I guess reconnecting the battery caused some systems that were sleeping (my technical term) to wake up and it took some power to do that. Also note that I did not have a fob with me because I didn't want to wake up anything else during the test.

So I'm not sure what all this means except that when I'm not going to drive the car for a week or 2 the battery maintainer is good insurance against having to call roadside assistance.
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There is still a surface charge on the battery if you check it immediately after removing the tender. In this case, 12.48 is too low. I believe the battery is bad. A good battery, charged and then left to sit for a couple of hours to get rid of the surface charge, should be right around 12.80. You are exactly correct about the car waking up and dropping a load on the battery which pulled it down a bit, but it didn't start out high enough in the first place before the computer woke up.
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There is still a surface charge on the battery if you check it immediately after removing the tender. In this case, 12.48 is too low. I believe the battery is bad. A good battery, charged and then left to sit for a couple of hours to get rid of the surface charge, should be right around 12.80. You are exactly correct about the car waking up and dropping a load on the battery which pulled it down a bit, but it didn't start out high enough in the first place before the computer woke up.
It's a Carquest battery and I have no idea how old it is. It was in the car when I bought it in June. I'll keep an eye on it, especially that I'm in NJ and we're headed into winter. I plan to drive it all winter as long as there's no snow around (I can only hope).
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