Aces fuel additive/octane booster
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Aces fuel additive/octane booster
Does anyone have experience with this?
Pie or is it for real?
http://www.bndautomotive.com/
Inquiring about the fuel treatment octane boost.
The product was mention in another recent thread and seems to be the deal.
Pie or is it for real?
http://www.bndautomotive.com/
Inquiring about the fuel treatment octane boost.
The product was mention in another recent thread and seems to be the deal.
Last edited by Boomer111; Nov 10, 2014 at 09:15 PM.
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I have experience with their diesel formula. It's nothing but an outrageously expensive blend of ketone and surfactant and does nothing to enhance combustion. Emissions are lowered slightly, however.
Most additives contain detergent and lubricity packages. That is fine and good, but I am always skeptical of octane and cetane boosters from a performance perspective. If you really NEED higher octane because of a high compression ratio and / or boost, run race gas or inject methanol.
Most additives contain detergent and lubricity packages. That is fine and good, but I am always skeptical of octane and cetane boosters from a performance perspective. If you really NEED higher octane because of a high compression ratio and / or boost, run race gas or inject methanol.
Last edited by techvette; Nov 11, 2014 at 09:08 AM.
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Thanks for the response "techvette"
Usually this type of claim is always too good to be true. Like reinventing the wheel.
I am still looking for real life reviews, out of general curiosity, and do take your position with gravity.
I suppose increase performance is marginal at best and still wonder about the lubricity claims, example "slick 50".
here is the thread that peaked my interest: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...e-booster.html
The 3rd post.
Usually this type of claim is always too good to be true. Like reinventing the wheel.
I am still looking for real life reviews, out of general curiosity, and do take your position with gravity.
I suppose increase performance is marginal at best and still wonder about the lubricity claims, example "slick 50".
here is the thread that peaked my interest: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...e-booster.html
The 3rd post.
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I used it and really didn't notice any differance. Over at the Charger forum, their is quite a bit of feedback on this product.
https://www.google.com/#q=charger+forum+aces
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Well, when I used it I didn't notice any difference in my fuel trims and it didn't reduce any of the knock (<2) I was having.... I did have my C6 mail order tune by lew. I have headers, CAI. I tried mixing it with different brands of gas...shell, marathon, chevron, and even mixed it with non ethanol 93 octane but still didn't reduce the slight knock I was having....
I believe I still have about half of bottle left and will gladly send it your way if you want to just cover shipping...
I believe I still have about half of bottle left and will gladly send it your way if you want to just cover shipping...
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I used it and really didn't notice any differance. Over at the Charger forum, their is quite a bit of feedback on this product.
https://www.google.com/#q=charger+forum+aces
https://www.google.com/#q=charger+forum+aces
It does seem to be more popular.
But then Brian, the distributer, is a charger owner and active on the forum.
Very engaging fellow, just suspect the claims.
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I just got off the phone with Briand from BND. He seems to know quite a lot about automotive fluids. But then again, I don't so.....
It seems to get good reviews online. From what I can tell, it doesn't actually raise octane so much as it allows your current fuel to burn more efficiently, thus creating a higher octane effect. BS? Maybe, maybe not. But I think I'll try some. I'm also having him make me a custom gear oil to see if it help with my rear dif whine.
It seems to get good reviews online. From what I can tell, it doesn't actually raise octane so much as it allows your current fuel to burn more efficiently, thus creating a higher octane effect. BS? Maybe, maybe not. But I think I'll try some. I'm also having him make me a custom gear oil to see if it help with my rear dif whine.
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I haven't tried it in the Vette yet. But, I put some in my Yukon that has a Kenne Bell on it. On regular fuel, 91 is the minimum. With the Aces I didn't get any knock on the top end at all. I even tried a smaller pulley (5 more lbs) for more boost and I still had no issue. However, there was a bit of chatter around the 0 boost mark in transition. I am now chasing another issue and will try again once that is taken care of.
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http://www.screamandfly.com/showthre...269842-Aces-IV
This is a pretty good discussion. You can save yourself a lot of the 'back-and-forth' and start at page 11. But to summarize, a group of HiPo boat enthusiasts started a collection to have Aces tested on a knock motor to see its effect on detonation. Then the manufacturer said it won't pass a knock test because that's not how it worked. Then a lot of speculation about what it can and can't do but no real evidence to prove or disprove its benefits. The only real "evidence" available for this stuff is testimony from those who've used it stating they can run higher octane tunes on lower octane fuel + Aces. To me that's a silly risk to take without proof, but so be it. I have no intentions of running 89/91 + Aces on my 93 tuned engine. For me, it would be used to help with the lesser quality 93 and maybe bump the power and cleaning properties of the fuel. But, there is no real evidence to say it will. I believe subfloor brought this product up in the klotz thread and his opinion does carry some weight around here.
Would anyone else care to chime in?
This is a pretty good discussion. You can save yourself a lot of the 'back-and-forth' and start at page 11. But to summarize, a group of HiPo boat enthusiasts started a collection to have Aces tested on a knock motor to see its effect on detonation. Then the manufacturer said it won't pass a knock test because that's not how it worked. Then a lot of speculation about what it can and can't do but no real evidence to prove or disprove its benefits. The only real "evidence" available for this stuff is testimony from those who've used it stating they can run higher octane tunes on lower octane fuel + Aces. To me that's a silly risk to take without proof, but so be it. I have no intentions of running 89/91 + Aces on my 93 tuned engine. For me, it would be used to help with the lesser quality 93 and maybe bump the power and cleaning properties of the fuel. But, there is no real evidence to say it will. I believe subfloor brought this product up in the klotz thread and his opinion does carry some weight around here.
Would anyone else care to chime in?
Last edited by 5knives; Dec 20, 2014 at 04:06 PM.
