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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 10:49 AM
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From a Halltech KB to a Vararam /Honker style CAI....please post what data you have.
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 11:21 AM
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I went the other way.

No difference based on my driving habits. I think the Halltec quality is better.
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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 07:59 PM
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i installed the Honker on my 05, made a decent SOP gain, nothing quantitative, it was worth it IMO
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i installed the Honker on my 05, made a decent SOP gain, nothing quantitative, it was worth it IMO
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personally I'm still waiting for any proof that anything dynos better than OEM.

the best proof would be trap speed increase over an average of runs on the same day. airflow matters so dyno is not good enough.

I personally believe that the throttle body is the restriction that matters more than the intake but that none of it matters until you have headers at a minimum.

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what I noticed is my vararam has the ability to provide lower intake air temps thus decreasing timing retard. I saw this in one of my data logs.
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so the logical question would be what is allowing more cool air. can the shroud on the stock one simply be cut or modified to gain the same results for free?
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so the logical question would be what is allowing more cool air. can the shroud on the stock one simply be cut or modified to gain the same results for free?
Do a search, this question is answered many times in may ways over the past 10 years. The amount of ways to get cool air to the filter are too numerous to list.
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I know, I've seen... but nobody has done a real back to back test comparing IATs and trap speeds (or other non biased factors).

it makes you wonder....
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I know, I've seen... but nobody has done a real back to back test comparing IATs and trap speeds (or other non biased factors).

it makes you wonder....
If you are trying to justify buying a aftermarket intake system, save your money, unless you get over 850HP, you also don't need to worry about the size of the throttle body. So you ask, Why did I buy a NW102 throttle body, for the same reason i bought a bunch of other parts, it looks good.
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Originally Posted by timd38
If you are trying to justify buying a aftermarket intake system, save your money, unless you get over 850HP, you also don't need to worry about the size of the throttle body. So you ask, Why did I buy a NW102 throttle body, for the same reason i bought a bunch of other parts, it looks good.
lmao...yep...like a glass eye. it looks good but you can see with it.
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Originally Posted by timd38
If you are trying to justify buying a aftermarket intake system, save your money, unless you get over 850HP, you also don't need to worry about the size of the throttle body. So you ask, Why did I buy a NW102 throttle body, for the same reason i bought a bunch of other parts, it looks good.
I've been researching ported throttle bodies and larger ones and I do think that once you have exhaust work you can benefit from some more CFMs of air along with a good tune and get some gains. worst case you'll get some throttle response.
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Originally Posted by theblue
I've been researching ported throttle bodies and larger ones and I do think that once you have exhaust work you can benefit from some more CFMs of air along with a good tune and get some gains. worst case you'll get some throttle response.
Could you go to big and drop the velocity of the air and decrease your low end torque?
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I'm sure there is some ultimate ratio of intake vs exhaust, this is why they make intake manifolds with flaps and runners. I think porsche and couple other brands have infinitely variable setups.

for the sake of my argument, I simply want to KNOW that I'm not throwing away money on parts that just look different and make different noise and from what I've see since I've owned my corvette there is a lot of speculation and not much unbiased testing. this usually happens because the only people who do much testing are the ones selling parts. even when users test and find something didn't help they often don't speak up because it makes it hard to sell the part and they feel a bit of a fool.
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Originally Posted by theblue
I'm sure there is some ultimate ratio of intake vs exhaust, this is why they make intake manifolds with flaps and runners. I think porsche and couple other brands have infinitely variable setups.

for the sake of my argument, I simply want to KNOW that I'm not throwing away money on parts that just look different and make different noise and from what I've see since I've owned my corvette there is a lot of speculation and not much unbiased testing. this usually happens because the only people who do much testing are the ones selling parts. even when users test and find something didn't help they often don't speak up because it makes it hard to sell the part and they feel a bit of a fool.
I had a Vararam installed and I could definitely feel increased response and a SOTP power increase on the road at speed. Shortly after installing I got stuck in a heavy downpour and got really paranoid about the water ingestion issue (the roads around DC puddle quickly) so I had it uninstalled. I immediately noticed the car didn't feel quite as responsive or powerful, but I didn't miss the improvements enough to override my concerns about water ingestion.

I know the vast majority of Vararam owners have never had any water ingestion issues, but I always found myself thinking about it when I was driving and that's not really what I want to focus on when I'm driving my Vette.

So - I can say in my experience the Vararam delivers as advertised when compared to the stock intake. I haven't had a Halltech, so can't make any comparisons to their product.
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