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Old May 13, 2015 | 06:59 PM
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I am happy with my choice's
........if you tune out the surge the car will feel like a turd.......don't worry about it.

Rip it bro!
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Old May 13, 2015 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mysloride
Sam at AMP tuned it and said this was as good as it is going to get with a cam of this size.

High end Horsepower, Big Cam Sound, Slow Speed Drive-ability...you get to pick two out of 3 in a non FI car

I am happy with my choice's
Glad to hear it. Man I like the big cams.
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Old May 14, 2015 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedforhire
........if you tune out the surge the car will feel like a turd.......don't worry about it.

Rip it bro!
From a M6 perspective regarding surge... It's worth it! The art of rolling slow is just part of the fun.
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Old May 14, 2015 | 12:04 PM
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Reduce idle timing on a big cam and you will certainly feel like a turd.............down low.

It won't be worth the effort then.
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Old May 15, 2015 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by coSPEED2
Its not just idle timing but also cruise and some light throttle low load. It doesnt happen on all big cams btw.
These cams were designed by Martin Smallwood and Brian Tooley. I have a lot of faith in their design knowledge. According to both of them and Sam (the tuner at AMP) your going to give up power or throttle response by tuning out the lower end surge.

My high end HP is great, but what makes this car special is the incredible throttle response this motor has from 2000 RPM up. This thing makes you grin like a Chesser Cat
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Old May 15, 2015 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mysloride
These cams were designed by Martin Smallwood and Brian Tooley. I have a lot of faith in their design knowledge. According to both of them and Sam (the tuner at AMP) your going to give up power or throttle response by tuning out the lower end surge.

My high end HP is great, but what makes this car special is the incredible throttle response this motor has from 2000 RPM up. This thing makes you grin like a Chesser Cat
I agree ,Martin and Brian are very knowledgeable , I recently installed a Tick street heat stage 1 ls2 cam [same 229 lsl intake lobe],ported fast 102,and lg super pros and like you find the low end response and overall power to be fantastic.

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Old Jun 16, 2016 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mysloride
Tick Performance LS3 Stage 2 Cam install results

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2011 Corvette Grand Sport Convertible, M6 Transmission, NPP Exhaust

1st set of Mods:

Kooks 1-7/8” Long Tube Headers, 3” catted X pipe, Halltech CAI, new AC Delco plugs, Taylor wires and a Dyno Tune (initial install and tune by Gearheads Performance)

Baseline Results on AMP Dyno: 431.37 RWHP and 426.91 RWTQ
Advanced Modern Performance Dynojet Dyno on 2-12-2015 66 Deg. F.

2sd set of Mods:

Tick Performance LS3 Street Heat Stage 2 Camshaft: (Duration:229 Intake, 244 Exhaust. Lift .615 Intake, .596 Exhaust, Lobe Sep 112) Brian Tooley Springs, Titanium retainers, locks and pushrods, ATI Harmonic Balancer, Katech C5-R Timing Chain and Tensioner, Comp Cams Trunion Upgrade and ARP bolts for everything. (2sd mods and final tune by Sam at Advanced Modern Performance)

Results: 487.08 RWHP and 448.61 RWTQ
Advanced Modern Performance Dynojet Dyno on 2-14-2015 78 Deg. F.

The car sounds like a total beast and has really compounded my traction issues.

I will follow up with a drive-ability review in the next couple of days.
My initial feeling is that yes there will be a learning curve with this cam, but I still feel it will be OK for a sometimes DD (30 miles each way of stop and go traffic)
What idle rpm are you set at with your set up? I have the same cam set at 850rpm and she seems to be struggling to find idle on start up and when I take it out of gear
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Old Jun 17, 2016 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Daoust58
What idle rpm are you set at with your set up? I have the same cam set at 850rpm and she seems to be struggling to find idle on start up and when I take it out of gear
Having the same problem with a Maggie Heartbeat on top close to same cam. 220/242 .626/598 119 lsa +4 850rpm idle. Patg spec ground by Cam Motion. 602rwh

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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by scottg
Having the same problem with a Maggie Heartbeat on top close to same cam. 220/242 .626/598 119 lsa +4 850rpm idle. Patg spec ground by Cam Motion
Your engine should be really smooth with those cam specs. Unless something else is wrong, I'll say the tune needs to be looked over.

I have a very similar specs, 221/240 117+5 Brian Tooley spec ground by Cam Motion as well and it's extremely smooth compared to my old 230/240 114+3
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Pitufina
Your engine should be really smooth with those cam specs. Unless something else is wrong, I'll say the tune needs to be looked over.

I have a very similar specs, 221/240 117+5 Brian Tooley spec ground by Cam Motion as well and it's extremely smooth compared to my old 230/240 114+3
I'am bringing it in in a couple weeks. Only been in car for 2000 miles. Sometimes it dies when putting it reverse on a incline or just feathering it backing up or if you just rev it real quick it will go down to 200 rpms just about the time you want to let the clutch out and dies very embarrassing. Who did your tune?

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Originally Posted by scottg
I'am bringing it in in a couple weeks. Only been in car for 2000 miles. Sometimes it dies when putting it reverse on a incline or just feathering it backing up or if you just rev it real quick it will go down to 200 rpms just about the time you want to let the clutch out and dies very embarrassing. Who did your tune?
Dave Steck but he relocated to TX. Now I own HPT Pro and make changes as required. It sounds like yours need to have the idle final airflow and possibly timing tuned.
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitufina
Dave Steck but he relocated to TX. Now I own HPT Pro and make changes as required. It sounds like yours need to have the idle final airflow and possibly timing tuned.
It idles fine. but it does not stop at 850 when you put in the clutch, its like the ecm cannot correct itself fast enough to keep it from going down to 200 rpms before it goes back up to 850. I know nothing about tuning. And the engine rocks back and forth until its warm. And it does not have the ZR1 sensor on it. Tuner says not necessary. Some say a Speed Density tune could help.

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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 04:09 PM
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Pitufina is right. Min airflow increased 2-3% at a time until that behavior is gone will fix this. Doesn't matter if it's SD or MAF (though SD was a good bit smoother on my particular car, so I preferred it on mine)

Working on adapt idle timing and idle ignition timing would probably help too

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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by schpenxel
Pitufina is right. Min airflow increased 2-3% at a time until that behavior is gone will fix this. Doesn't matter if it's SD or MAF (though SD was a good bit smoother on my particular car, so I preferred it on mine)

Working on adapt idle timing and idle ignition timing would probably help too
Do you think I would lose power on top. Over 2000 rpms it pulls hard. only one glitch, in 6th at 65-70mph it burps when you get on throttle. About 1500 rpms Thanks schpenxel. Looks like Sammy isn't the only one with issues. Darn I wish I knew this stuff.

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You mean surge or bucking while at 1500 rpms or below correct? Yeah thats the cam but it can also be tuned out. Too much timing during cruising causes that. There are other things that can contribute to that as well. Your engine needs more tuning. Mine is maf tuned and no issues.

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Originally Posted by Pitufina
You mean surge or bucking while at 1500 rpms or below correct? Yeah thats the cam but it can also be tuned out. Too much timing during cruising causes that. There are other things that can contribute to that as well. Your engine needs more tuning. Mine is maf tuned and no issues.
Yes, Most noticeable in 4,5,6 gears. All under 1500rpms. Thanks for the ideas to run by my tuner.
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