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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 12:38 AM
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Yes, I understand the stock coils are pretty darn good, but I like the way they look.

I own a C5 and I've been looking at the LS1 version of the MSD coils, however, from my research they are complete junk, sometimes failing out of the box. Perhaps the LS2 version is more reliable?

Is anyone here running the MSD coils? Are they junk or what?
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 07:34 AM
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Junk. I also went through two sets of Accel coils before I got 8 good ones.
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 08:11 AM
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They are widely known as junk in all forms.
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 10:05 AM
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Surprising that two big names in ignitions for many years have sunk to the position of junk status---almost like some company bonds.
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Surprising that two big names in ignitions for many years have sunk to the position of junk status---almost like some company bonds.
It is call "private equity" ownership.......

Make the numbers look good, so that we can flip it.
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Better question: Has anyone not had problems with the MSD coils?
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 04:51 PM
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I commented on the other post. MSD coils obtained a really bad rap when first introduced because of them burning out due to insufficient power. causing one of the 8 coils to stop working. this was explained to be the result of there not being enough power on the existing cicuit being that it was already shared by the injectors as well. I think MSD was finally made aware of this in 2010 when they came out with a plug and play harness for the LS. bt that time People had already made thier impressions of junk by these things. I became aware of this problem first hand and was able to scource a harness to test it out. The system worked fine. I have had these coils in a buddys car for almost 3 years now and I have them in my car for almost one year. no issues.

The OEM coild work just as well and some vouch that even better. I like the MSD for the Look. I dont know if the multispark helps if any on low rpm but non the less. they look nice in my car.




Here is the harness that must be purchased
http://www.msdperformance.com/Produc...l_Harness.aspx
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Originally Posted by rob20rx7
I commented on the other post. MSD coils obtained a really bad rap when first introduced because of them burning out due to insufficient power. causing one of the 8 coils to stop working. this was explained to be the result of there not being enough power on the existing cicuit being that it was already shared by the injectors as well. I think MSD was finally made aware of this in 2010 when they came out with a plug and play harness for the LS. bt that time People had already made thier impressions of junk by these things. I became aware of this problem first hand and was able to scource a harness to test it out. The system worked fine. I have had these coils in a buddys car for almost 3 years now and I have them in my car for almost one year. no issues.

The OEM coild work just as well and some vouch that even better. I like the MSD for the Look. I dont know if the multispark helps if any on low rpm but non the less. they look nice in my car.




Here is the harness that must be purchased
http://www.msdperformance.com/Produc...l_Harness.aspx
Very interesting, thats the first I've heard about this. Thanks for posting. Yeah, the instructions talk about needing to upgrade the harness for all versions of the LS coils (LS1/LS2/Truck).
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Here's an interesting article that discusses the failure rate on the initial MSD coils and what MSD did to corrrect it:

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...-pn-82878.html
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I bought ACCEL COILS FOR THE same reason rob20rx7 bought MSD coils, they look cool.........
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Default $5 for 8 MSD Coils

Not MSDs, but they sure look good...


Had a guy come up to me at a cars and coffee and start telling me what junk MSD coils were. I said, you don't care for my MSDs? he said nope. I said look closely, they are stock coils... Think I want some MSD stickers for these...

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Originally Posted by berk4422
Not MSDs, but they sure look good...


Had a guy come up to me at a cars and coffee and start telling me what junk MSD coils were. I said, you don't care for my MSDs? he said nope. I said look closely, they are stock coils... Think I want some MSD stickers for these...

Looks awesome
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Originally Posted by reactor2
Looks awesome
Thank you!
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Originally Posted by reactor2
Here's an interesting article that discusses the failure rate on the initial MSD coils and what MSD did to corrrect it:

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...-pn-82878.html
Good read, now I understand the back story. I really wanted MSDs back then but when I read about the problems I did not know this was going on. I was very surprised because I had such high respect for MSD. Glad this can be explained.
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by reactor2
Here's an interesting article that discusses the failure rate on the initial MSD coils and what MSD did to corrrect it:

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...-pn-82878.html
Thank you for your link!

This is from the link:

"In a recent email discussion I had with Todd Ryden, a technical writer who specializes in ignition subjects and consults to MSD, I learned the reputation of the original versions of MSD's coils for LS-series engines was tainted because of problems MSD had with its first two suppliers."

To me, opinion/experience from the above technical writer is bias, since he is a consultant to MSD.

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I first tried MSD coils, other than the LS series, in the early '80s and continued until late '90s for both car and motorcycle. They were all problematic. They were made in Mexico at that time. It appears to be a historical blame game for an ongoing issue.

I have zero confidence on their coil. Since the OEM coil is a proven performer, there is no need for me to be a MSD LS coil guinea pig.

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