Help, belt failure - What could cause this?
With a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach thinking all sorts of things: rod issue, lifter or rocker problems, etc., I quickly turned off the car to gather my thoughts. I popped the hood and did a visual inspection, and there was not anything that was visibly noticeable. I checked under the car to see if any life fluids were pooling and it was dry and nothing dripping. So, thinking that I needed to figure out what was going on, I started the car again and quickly went to the engine bay to see if I could hear and locate what was going on.
The clatter was coming from my idler/tensioner pulley. Here is a link to a video of it.
I shut off the car again thinking, "OK, not too bad. Just a bad/failed pulley." I look under the hood again, and noticed my A/C belt had come off and wrapped itself around my ATI harmonic balancer pulley with a piece of the dead belt between the main serpentine belt and the balancer. I tried pulling the dead belt out, but it was wrapped up too tightly to get it done. I then took some pictures and noticed it looks like the ATI balancer has the center part coming out of the outer housing a little bit. The arrow at the top right of this picture shows that, and the arrow in the lower left of the pic is pointing to the piece of A/C belt that is wedged in there.
I immediately thought that the 9 bolts that screw into the front to hold the balancer assembly together may have come out, or my ARP balancer bolt may have backed out a little. Another picture below shows that, at least visibly, I have all 9 bolts and the balancer bolt looks OK.
By the way, I put all new belts on the car when I put it back together, and I believe the A/C belt was a Goodyear Gatorback.
Any thought or ideas about why my A/C belt jumped, and from the pictures, does it look my ATI balancer is OK? I was thinking that the center/hub of of the balancer may be protruding a bit because of the A/C belt being wedged in between the A/C pulley and main serpentine belt pulley.
I'm having the car ferried to my house on a flat bed and will have to jack it up and get a better look tomorrow. Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions or insight.
With a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach thinking all sorts of things: rod issue, lifter or rocker problems, etc., I quickly turned off the car to gather my thoughts. I popped the hood and did a visual inspection, and there was not anything that was visibly noticeable. I checked under the car to see if any life fluids were pooling and it was dry and nothing dripping. So, thinking that I needed to figure out what was going on, I started the car again and quickly went to the engine bay to see if I could hear and locate what was going on.
The clatter was coming from my idler/tensioner pulley. Here is a link to a video of it. https://youtu.be/ZM8zJGSne-c
I shut off the car again thinking, "OK, not too bad. Just a bad/failed pulley." I look under the hood again, and noticed my A/C belt had come off and wrapped itself around my ATI harmonic balancer pulley with a piece of the dead belt between the main serpentine belt and the balancer. I tried pulling the dead belt out, but it was wrapped up too tightly to get it done. I then took some pictures and noticed it looks like the ATI balancer has the center part coming out of the outer housing a little bit. The arrow at the top right of this picture shows that, and the arrow in the lower left of the pic is pointing to the piece of A/C belt that is wedged in there.
I immediately thought that the 9 bolts that screw into the front to hold the balancer assembly together may have come out, or my ARP balancer bolt may have backed out a little. Another picture below shows that, at least visibly, I have all 9 bolts and the balancer bolt looks OK.
By the way, I put all new belts on the car when I put it back together, and I believe the A/C belt was a Goodyear Gatorback.
Any thought or ideas about why my A/C belt jumped, and from the pictures, does it look my ATI balancer is OK? I was thinking that the center/hub of of the balancer may be protruding a bit because of the A/C belt being wedged in between the A/C pulley and main serpentine belt pulley.
I'm having the car ferried to my house on a flat bed and will have to jack it up and get a better look tomorrow. Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions or insight.
Last edited by Mike's LS3; Mar 16, 2015 at 10:40 PM.
My guess is that the shell and assembly were not in all the way causing misalignment between the A/C pulley and HB. If you have the oem HB, you can measure and compare the pulley gap and/or the total assembled height. You should also see a misalignment between A/C pulley and HB. Don't forget to use Loctite on all the bolts.
Last edited by Mike's LS3; Mar 17, 2015 at 03:45 AM.










