Lug nut help! torque not holding
set torque to 90 at start of day and a couple of nuts took 1.5 turns to set torque ( no big deal first time out with car)
checked at lunch and a couple of other turned .75 turns and set,
checked a couple runs later and several on each wheel went around 1.5 turns
went home after that ( never had that happen)
car is new to me low mileage with factory rims, tires etc.
and thoughts?
almost felt like studs were finishing seating ( like after you change them and suck them in with a nut)
Your nuts should have a tapered seat About a 60* angle on them.
Youre using a shouldered nut on a conical seat. Damn lucky you didnt lose your wheels
Last edited by AzMotorhead; Apr 27, 2015 at 12:03 AM.
I had the same thought when viewing wheel. But thought it might be a difference in zo6 wheels/or after market wheels.
But your thoughts have hit the nail........ (IMHO) ....http://www.autozone.com/suspension-s...mString=search
Last edited by HK770; Apr 27, 2015 at 12:50 AM.
The pics were a big help. I've personally never seen any factory or aftermarket C6 vette wheel use anything but a tapered lug nut. (but there probably are some out there)





Just for fun, I looked up ZR1 lug nuts and GM shows a different nut for a ZR1 than for a Z06 or base.
Last edited by timd38; Apr 27, 2015 at 08:32 PM.
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The channel is the factory rims are tapered, and the lug needs to be tapered to correctly mat up with the taper entry channel of the rim to have the correct needed amount of surface bearing area to hold the bolt correctly (while not over torquing the lug nuts to peen the rim channels instead.
http://www.billetspecialties.com/e-t...g-nuts/999978/
So yes, the correct thread of the lug nut is 12MMx 1.5 pitch, but the bottom contact area of the lug nut needs to be tapers to correctly mate with the tapered entry of the rim channel to achieve the needed mating surface tension to hold the nuts in torque tension of 100ftlbs.

So on your lug nuts now, it only the slight rim of bottom washer that is making contact to both the rim (outside the taper entry section) and the actual lug nut (where the rim section tapers, the bottom washer will just bend downward), and not enough surface tension area to hold the lug nuts tight to the correct tension of 100ftlbs.
To bottom line it, you over torque on the lug nuts, it will just peen the rim softer material itself (and make pulling the lugs off later a monster). So since the rim material is a softer metal, you need more surface tension of the lugs to the rims instead, and why the the rims are taper entry for the lug, and the lug tapered to match the rim taper entry section.
Bluntly, the lug nuts you have now are for a non taper entry channel (bottom of channel flat), and where you can torque to much higher than 100ftlbs.
So in the below photo, yous rims are the ones on the very left, and you are trying to use a middle type lug nut in the rim instead.

On the positive side, you decide to stick these type rims on the Vet, you do have the lug nuts for it.
Last edited by Dano523; Apr 28, 2015 at 09:45 AM.
So yes, the correct thread of the lug nut is 12MMx 1.5 pitch, but the bottom contact area of the lug nut needs to be tapers to correctly mate with the tapered entry of the rim channel to achieve the needed mating surface tension to hold the nuts in torque tension of 100ftlbs.

So on your lug nuts now, it only the slight rim of bottom washer that is making contact to both the rim (outside the taper entry section) and the actual lug nut (where the rim section tapers, the bottom washer will just bend downward), and not enough surface tension area to hold the lug nuts tight to the correct tension of 100ftlbs.
To bottom line it, you over torque on the lug nuts, it will just peen the rim softer material itself (and make pulling the lugs off later a monster). So since the rim material is a softer metal, you need more surface tension of the lugs to the rims instead, and why the the rims are taper entry for the lug, and the lug tapered to match the rim taper entry section.
Bluntly, the lug nuts you have now are for a non taper entry channel (bottom of channel flat), and where you can torque to much higher than 100ftlbs.
So in the below photo, yous rims are the ones on the very left, and you are trying to use a middle type lug nut in the rim instead.

On the positive side, you decide to stick these type rims on the Vet, you do have the lug nuts for it.
what is the name and or part number for the chrome lug shown in the picture? That is what I need
Thanks so much
The Lug nuts you currently have are meant for this type of wheel.
Everything else Dano523 said is correct.
I have them the part number is 999978 e-t conical seat closed end lug nut,
You can get them by giving me a call or going thur one of our dealers like jegs or summit
Jegs was doing free shipping so you might want to check them out first same part number.
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