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Old Aug 14, 2015 | 09:27 PM
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So I just bought a 2010 Vette with 3k miles on it. Although it has super low miles, I don't know how the previous owner took care of it so I want to be on the safe side and change all the fluids just to have a fresh start and know everything is perfect.

I am planning on changing manual transmission fluid, rear diff fluid, coolant and oil. Is there anything special with these cars I need to know about any of these things?

Manual and Diff fluid: drain and fill until fluid comes out of fill plug.
Oil: obvious
Coolant: Drain, cycle through some distilled water a few times until clear water comes out, refill with proper mixture and bleed the system.

I have done maintenance on all my cars for years and it's all been straight forward, so I just wanted to make sure there are no tricks or special things I need to know when doing these things.

Thanks in advance guys!
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I'm sure everything you're changing is just fine..

But, yes, all that is right.. very straight forward

Buy a small pump for the transmission/diff oil. Something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Plews-55001-Lu.../dp/B000BQW5LK
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I'm sure everything you're changing is just fine..

But, yes, all that is right.. very straight forward

Buy a small pump for the transmission/diff oil. Something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Plews-55001-Lu.../dp/B000BQW5LK
Oh I have about 10 different pumps in my garage. I basically have every tool you could possibly think of lol.

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Old Aug 14, 2015 | 09:36 PM
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I'm not impressed.
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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 12:41 AM
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At only 3000 miles, I might consider changing the oil and filter, but I'd certainly leave the rest of that alone, unless you find evidence that the previous owner put all those miles on at the racetrack. If the paint is perfect, that car was a garage queen. Prematurely changing factory fluids at that low mileage has a greater opportunity for problems than just driving it the way it is.

Just my opinion and I didn't even charge you for it.
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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 08:48 AM
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and you would'nt do a search or read the owners manual?
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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 11:15 AM
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At only 3000 miles, I might consider changing the oil and filter, but I'd certainly leave the rest of that alone, unless you find evidence that the previous owner put all those miles on at the racetrack. If the paint is perfect, that car was a garage queen. Prematurely changing factory fluids at that low mileage has a greater opportunity for problems than just driving it the way it is.

Just my opinion and I didn't even charge you for it.
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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 11:48 AM
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Coolant needs to be changed at 5 years, so I would do that and an oil and oil filter change. The rest I would leave alone.
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Originally Posted by Tennis_pr0
So I just bought a 2010 Vette with 3k miles on it. Although it has super low miles, I don't know how the previous owner took care of it so I want to be on the safe side and change all the fluids just to have a fresh start and know everything is perfect.

I am planning on changing manual transmission fluid, rear diff fluid, coolant and oil. Is there anything special with these cars I need to know about any of these things?

Manual and Diff fluid: drain and fill until fluid comes out of fill plug.
Oil: obvious
Coolant: Drain, cycle through some distilled water a few times until clear water comes out, refill with proper mixture and bleed the system.

I have done maintenance on all my cars for years and it's all been straight forward, so I just wanted to make sure there are no tricks or special things I need to know when doing these things.

Thanks in advance guys!
I am in the process of doing the same on a 13 GS I traded for recently.
Won't be doing radiator coolant but will get all the others.
Don't forget Brake Fluid while your at it. DOT 4 if you will be doing any track events.
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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RICH 28
Coolant needs to be changed at 5 years, so I would do that and an oil and oil filter change. The rest I would leave alone.
IIRC the reason for the 5 year number, is the expected heating and cooling cycles that would occur in that time period. The expectation that the average car is being driven nearly 18K annually by the majority of male drivers, means that the conservative change time would be in the vicinity of 90K miles. I have AC Delco and Prestone Dex-cool containers that each state 5 year/150,000 mile protection. There are no expiration dates or use by dates, which is an assurance that it doesn't go bad in the container, nor would it go bad while being inside a closed cooling system without being used.

The OP states that he wants to "know everything is perfect", but you can't get more perfect than the factory fill, since there was not one drop of any used fluid in the car at that time.
The part I don't understand is that a person so **** to change the dif fluid (not even listed in the manual) on an extremely low mile car, doesn't consider changing the fuel, the brake fluid, the PS fluid, and especially the clutch fluid. Why go for the coolant when the clutch fluid needs changed far more often?

I also wonder if he'll buy new tires, since they are also 5+ years old.
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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 02:53 PM
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Read your owners manual. Some of what your doing is a waste of money.
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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 09:37 PM
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Reason I want to change all the fluids is I just don't know what's in there. There could have been a leak at some point. Or maybe the owner before me changed something and didn't fill correctly. It's just a few easy things to do so I know everything is fresh and filled properly.

As far as clutch/brake fluid, I looked at the fluid and it looks fine so I'm leaving that alone. The trans and diff fluid I can't check or see so that's why I'm changing that. The oil i always change when I get a carm and the coolant I saw a few little glittery particles in there so my OCD won't be satisfied unless I change it. I'm just OCD and like to know that everything id done by my and done correctly. Plus I enjoy doing it.
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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by HOXXOH
IIRC the reason for the 5 year number, is the expected heating and cooling cycles that would occur in that time period. The expectation that the average car is being driven nearly 18K annually by the majority of male drivers, means that the conservative change time would be in the vicinity of 90K miles. I have AC Delco and Prestone Dex-cool containers that each state 5 year/150,000 mile protection. There are no expiration dates or use by dates, which is an assurance that it doesn't go bad in the container, nor would it go bad while being inside a closed cooling system without being used.
I'd suggest caution and advise replacing the coolant on the recommended five year cycle. I'm not a chemical engineer but coolant that is subject to even occasional heat cycles and stored in an unsealed container (the engine's cooling system) made of radically dissimilar metals and plastics is not the same as new, uncycled coolant stored in a factory sealed container. The only time I missed a coolant replacement cycle on a car the radiator and heater core developed leaks. Pay the money, change the coolant and rest easy. JMO.
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Old Aug 16, 2015 | 10:19 AM
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I'd suggest caution and advise replacing the coolant on the recommended five year cycle. I'm not a chemical engineer but coolant that is subject to even occasional heat cycles and stored in an unsealed container (the engine's cooling system) made of radically dissimilar metals and plastics is not the same as new, uncycled coolant stored in a factory sealed container. The only time I missed a coolant replacement cycle on a car the radiator and heater core developed leaks. Pay the money, change the coolant and rest easy. JMO.
As far as how long to wait to change it I don't have it down to an exact science, but I usually change all my fluids every few years just to keep everything healthy. My car is 6 years old and yes only has 3k miles on it, but just the fact that all the fluids are six years old and I'm the new owner of the car now, I would just feel more comfortable changing them.

I had a 2012 Camaro ZL1 before my mustang and the car only had 10k miles on it. I changed the coolant on that (the coolant that came out looked fine) but i found after I changed it the car ran a little cooler and it just gave me peace of mind. I also changed the diff and trans fluid on it and I can tell you with just 10k miles, those fluids were pretty dirty and there was a lot of metal the diff plug picked up. I was happy to get all that stuff out and put fresh stuff in.

I generally do follow close to what the manufacturer suggests, but anytime I buy a used car I like to change everything and start my maintenance intervals from there.
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Old Aug 16, 2015 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Tennis_pr0
As far as how long to wait to change it I don't have it down to an exact science, but I usually change all my fluids every few years just to keep everything healthy. My car is 6 years old and yes only has 3k miles on it, but just the fact that all the fluids are six years old and I'm the new owner of the car now, I would just feel more comfortable changing them.

I had a 2012 Camaro ZL1 before my mustang and the car only had 10k miles on it. I changed the coolant on that (the coolant that came out looked fine) but i found after I changed it the car ran a little cooler and it just gave me peace of mind. I also changed the diff and trans fluid on it and I can tell you with just 10k miles, those fluids were pretty dirty and there was a lot of metal the diff plug picked up. I was happy to get all that stuff out and put fresh stuff in.

I generally do follow close to what the manufacturer suggests, but anytime I buy a used car I like to change everything and start my maintenance intervals from there.
I'd endorse that approach, the worst that can happen is that you spend a few bucks that you didn't have to spend. I'm sure it will cost a bit more but I'd suggest that you go to a Corvette specialist or a Corvette savvy dealer because these cars are not your average Impala.

I'm not sure about your particular Corvette but many limited slip differentials and some transmissions require a friction modifier additive for proper operation plus many cooling systems need to be burped for proper operation. If you have a dry sump motor changing the oil requires additional knowledge as well. Most "Quickie Lubes" are clueless about these issues when it comes to Corvettes.
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I'd endorse that approach, the worst that can happen is that you spend a few bucks that you didn't have to spend. I'm sure it will cost a bit more but I'd suggest that you go to a Corvette specialist or a Corvette savvy dealer because these cars are not your average Impala.

I'm not sure about your particular Corvette but many limited slip differentials and some transmissions require a friction modifier additive for proper operation plus many cooling systems need to be burped for proper operation. If you have a dry sump motor changing the oil requires additional knowledge as well. Most "Quickie Lubes" are clueless about these issues when it comes to Corvettes.
I believe the oil the dealer sells for the diff comes with the friction modifier in it already. it did when I changed the diff fluid on my Camaro ZL1. Coolant yeah you always have to burp the system to ensure no air is trapped. I have an appointment with the dealer in a week for my clutch that is sticking a bit so I'm gonna do all this stuff once that is taken care of.
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At 3K, I would leave the diff and trans fluids alone. Both have not collected enough dust from the clutch packs on the diff/ synco-shifter fork's to warrant changing these fluids out.

Engine oil, yes for piece of mind if anything else.
Clutch and brake fluids, yes, since with the amount of time that has passed, these fluids have pulled moisture into them, and they become less effective. The brakes you can power flush, while the clutch fluid use the ranger method instead.

Radiator fluid, would leave it alone, as well as the power steering fluid too (mileage too low to justify the need to change such on a garage queen).

Truth be told, with the low mileage and the year of the car, would spend more time under the car looking for Oil leaks from the car sitting without being driven much instead (seals/gaskets dried up from not being driven).
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At 3K, I would leave the diff and trans fluids alone. Both have not collected enough dust from the clutch packs on the diff/ synco-shifter fork's to warrant changing these fluids out.

Engine oil, yes for piece of mind if anything else.
Clutch and brake fluids, yes, since with the amount of time that has passed, these fluids have pulled moisture into them, and they become less effective. The brakes you can power flush, while the clutch fluid use the ranger method instead.

Radiator fluid, would leave it alone, as well as the power steering fluid too (mileage too low to justify the need to change such on a garage queen).

Truth be told, with the low mileage and the year of the car, would spend more time under the car looking for Oil leaks from the car sitting without being driven much instead (seals/gaskets dried up from not being driven).
Dano, although I pretty much agree with most everything you say, sometimes you need to read between the lines. The OP is determined to do exactly what he wants to and nothing more or less to satisfy his OCD, regardless of anyone else's input. He supposedly has every tool known to man, yet is taking the car to a dealer for a clutch issue, even though his eye has determined the clutch fluid is fine. Although he sees no evidence of leaks, he is confidant that changing the factory fill fluids will make everything perfect, since concern that the previous garage queen owner might have put in something else that would be really bad. The only thing on his profile is "male", so the info about the car is limited to 2010 M6, meaning it could be a LT1 no option coupe or a loaded ZR1. It appears he trades cars often, so the chances of problems related to fluids (other than clutch) are next to zero.

This is a case of just letting the OP do whatever he wants, since he rejects any opposing opinions.
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IIRC the reason for the 5 year number, is the expected heating and cooling cycles that would occur in that time period. The expectation that the average car is being driven nearly 18K annually by the majority of male drivers, means that the conservative change time would be in the vicinity of 90K miles. I have AC Delco and Prestone Dex-cool containers that each state 5 year/150,000 mile protection. There are no expiration dates or use by dates, which is an assurance that it doesn't go bad in the container, nor would it go bad while being inside a closed cooling system without being used.

The OP states that he wants to "know everything is perfect", but you can't get more perfect than the factory fill, since there was not one drop of any used fluid in the car at that time.
The part I don't understand is that a person so **** to change the dif fluid (not even listed in the manual) on an extremely low mile car, doesn't consider changing the fuel, the brake fluid, the PS fluid, and especially the clutch fluid. Why go for the coolant when the clutch fluid needs changed far more often?

I also wonder if he'll buy new tires, since they are also 5+ years old.
Actually, that analysis doesn't work. In the plastic containers the fluid is sealed in a non reactive environment. When it is in the engine it is in a reactive environment. There are both iron and aluminum parts of the engine that it is exposed to and more than likely there is a weak chemical reaction over time that degrades the coolant. If that occurs it loses its ability to provide corrosion protection for the engine and lubrication for the water pump. Doesn't matter how few miles it has been driven. That is why GM states change the fluid at 150K miles or every 5 years.

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What behoves me is this. You spent a lot of money for the vette, used or new, and you are **** about the care of it which is a good thing, why wont you invest few hundred on a proper shop manual for it? It has all the correct procedures, torque values, proper lubricants. And in some vehicles like a GS with a differential oil cooler there are additional procedures when it comes to filling it. I would not flush the engine with a distilled water either as on refilling your ratio will be wrong due to the water remaining in the block unless you know the amount of fresh water that gets trapped in there. Buy a set of manuals. It will be your friend now and in the future.
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