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Old Oct 2, 2015 | 04:46 PM
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Has anybody permanently deleted the crossover tube and passenger side fuel tank ?

I am in the process of swapping a fuel pump and was very curious. I purposely keep 1/2 tank of fuel or lower and don't make long trips so just one tank would be plenty enough for me. I figured it would save weight and space, and also get rid of unnecessary stuff.

I usually only read on the forum and never start a tread but after an hour of searching I can't find anything
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Old Oct 2, 2015 | 05:06 PM
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You can't find anything because its not something that anyone would do. What would you put in that "saved space" and why would you want to limit yourself to only 9 gallons?
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Old Oct 2, 2015 | 08:01 PM
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As previously stated I don't do any long trips. Most I drive it is maybe 40 miles at a time. I would really like to do away with as much unnecessary stuff as possible
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Old Oct 2, 2015 | 09:25 PM
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I would think the designers placed the gasoline tanks where they are for a very good reason. You may want to check as I think the fuel is drawn from the passenger side fuel tank first. Good luck
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Old Oct 2, 2015 | 09:30 PM
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My point exactly, I never run more than a half tank bc it's just a weekend warrior / track car. So I never put enough fuel for it to make it to the passenger side. It only draws from the driver side.

No weight reduction freaks has done this???
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Old Oct 2, 2015 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by colthowell
Has anybody permanently deleted the crossover tube and passenger side fuel tank ?

I am in the process of swapping a fuel pump and was very curious. I purposely keep 1/2 tank of fuel or lower and don't make long trips so just one tank would be plenty enough for me. I figured it would save weight and space, and also get rid of unnecessary stuff.

I usually only read on the forum and never start a tread but after an hour of searching I can't find anything
I wouldn't do what you are doing now, nor would I take the passenger tank out, but to each their own. As long as you like it, rock it.

Having said that, if you have both tanks in the car, I wouldn't suggest always filling the tank half full, as this will wear out your fuel pump faster, as they are cooled by the fuel they pump. Doing so will shorten fuel pump life, which is probably why you're changing it in the first place.

To physically have only one tank is easy, pull the passenger tank out and the crossover tube and seal the driver side tank with your choice of method. Cannibalize the plastic from the passenger tank and seal off the crossover hole or use the crossover coupling and seal that.

The hard part is once you do that, no matter what you do your tank will read a maximum of half full, you would need some sort of electronic/rheostatic wizardry that i don't believe anyone has attempted to make your fuel gauge make any sense. You might very well be on your own there.

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Old Oct 2, 2015 | 09:45 PM
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Why?

It makes no sense to bother trying to do this.
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Old Oct 2, 2015 | 09:58 PM
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How much weight could you save removing a 9 gallon plastic tank. Not enough to make it worth the trouble, IMO.
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Old Oct 2, 2015 | 10:50 PM
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Thank you loco_stevie. I just installed a mantic 9000 and a few other parts and had the cradle out and thought I would replace the pump as a precaution with a newer version while I had easy access.

I've read 50 threads ab people having issues with the crossover tube, seals leaking, etc. Just thought why not delete the other tank. I don't use it anyways. Not concerned with the tank only registering half full, as long as I knew when it was close to empty
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Most people have problems after reassembling the tanks/crossover with the drivetrain still installed.

I've pulled mine with and without the drivetrain in place and never had a problem. Make sure you have all the seals, none of them are torn, and lube them prior to installation. They'll do their job if installed correctly and it's extremely easy to put back together with the transmission out of the way.
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Originally Posted by EVRose
How much weight could you save removing a 9 gallon plastic tank. Not enough to make it worth the trouble, IMO.
Exactly.
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Old Oct 2, 2015 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hippy
Exactly.
You got people removing bumper supports, changing rotors, removing wiper motors and removing sun visors, etc for weight reduction. I don't think this is much as bad as many. My car is tore all apart. The fuel pump change took 15 minutes. Not bad at all. Just curious why none of these weight reduction fanatics don't have a write up already lol
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Originally Posted by EVRose
How much weight could you save removing a 9 gallon plastic tank. Not enough to make it worth the trouble, IMO.
Gasoline weighs about 6 pounds/gallon, so about 54 pounds.
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Old Oct 3, 2015 | 08:21 AM
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54 lbs, plus the 9 gallon tank, crossover pipe, fuel pump, and skid plate on that side.

My only concern is the wiring and return lines. I assume just unplugging the fuel pump on the passenger side won't affect anything. Also the cross over lines that hook to the driver side fuel pump
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Originally Posted by NashvilleGrandSport
Gasoline weighs about 6 pounds/gallon, so about 54 pounds.
Right, but he said he never puts gas in that tank so the only weight saved is the weight of the tank.
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Originally Posted by NashvilleGrandSport
Gasoline weighs about 6 pounds/gallon, so about 54 pounds.
If he's not filling it past halfway then there won't be any fuel in the passenger tank anyways

Originally Posted by colthowell
54 lbs, plus the 9 gallon tank, crossover pipe, fuel pump, and skid plate on that side.

My only concern is the wiring and return lines. I assume just unplugging the fuel pump on the passenger side won't affect anything. Also the cross over lines that hook to the driver side fuel pump
There is no fuel pump on the passenger side. The driver fuel pump sends some pressure to the passenger tank and uses that to transfer fuel from passenger to driver tank (venturi).

So.. you'd have to find a way to block that off too. You might could just remove the lines that run from the driver side fuel pump to the passenger side. I'm not sure if that would cause any other issues or not.

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...ystem-389.html

I still think it's a bad idea.. but whatever
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Originally Posted by schpenxel
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...ystem-389.html

I still think it's a bad idea.. but whatever
It's a good idea in the respect the OP desires to eliminate excess or un-needed parts and weight, but after reviewing that link, it looks like it could easily turn into a technical nightmare that would entail far more work and expense than any savings would cover.
Now if you were building a dedicated track car, you'd most likely be ripping out the whole system and replacing it with a fuel cell.

A much easier method of reducing unnecessary weight, would be to drain the wiper fluid and then add only 1 pint for those rare times you'd get stuck with muddied windows during the 40 mile jaunts.
I'm guessing there are thousands of C6's that have the full load of OEM wiper fluid.
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Originally Posted by colthowell
My point exactly, I never run more than a half tank bc it's just a weekend warrior / track car. So I never put enough fuel for it to make it to the passenger side. It only draws from the driver side.

No weight reduction freaks has done this???
You must run a really short track. I use a gallon a lap at Road America and the fuel cools the pump, so after 5 laps you are at less than 1/2 a tank.

One more thing, the tank is so light, that it would be less trouble to have the driver lose a few pounds (not saying you need to) or take out the passangers seat.

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Old Oct 3, 2015 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by timd38
You must run a really short track. I use a gallon a lap at Road America and the fuel cools the pump, so after 5 laps you are at less than 1/2 a tank.
Not a road course car, it's mainly just a weekend street car and 1/2 mile events/Dragstrip
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