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Old 08-21-2016, 01:08 AM
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Ok guys, i am a complete noob to this im a dummy for this so please bare with me. If any help is given it would be greatly appreciated.

Finally got the time to install the z06 brakes and wheels/tires on the car. Sorry NOPE they were lies. Supposedly these wheels i baught would fit "big brakes". that wasn't the case. These are cray spyder wheels and z06 brakes. The offsets are not stock and they are half an inch wider than stock front/rear. Rear's combo is ok since big wheels and smaller brakes. But i was iffy about the fronts from the start. smaller wheels, bigger brakes. Everything was great until we mounted the wheels right after installing the front discs and caliper. And guess what, exactly... the caliper hits the spoke of the wheel just barely. I got frustrated. We used a 1 1/8th washer to see how it would look. Turned out it actually worked. By a quarter of an inch these brakes didnt fit the supposedly "big brakes" ready wheels. I would feel more comfortable with 1 1/4th though. Here i demonstrate the difference between the rears and the fronts.





So the rears are fine.



Fronts in a close up you can see the caliper touching with the wheel.


Any advise on how to Fix this? No i do not want any fancy washers, or wheel spacers or hub centric spacers. I don't want to die. This car will see crazy speeds and will reach them quickly, and quite a lot of times.
Yes i know, either buy new wheels with the correct offset, new less wide brakes, or __________ (your line here). If need more info ill do my best to provide.
Thank you and please help guys
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And by the way, i was thinking if it would be possible if there is actually a hub assembly that would fix this problem. Where the hub would be wider and clear the wheel away from the caliper just enough to make it work.

This here. Has anyone ever considered doing that? Is it even possible is there a part? Idk just thinking outside the box. Bare with me
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I may be wrong, but a spacer may be your only reasonable priced option. I know from previous research that my Gumbies can accommodate a Z06 brake set, but I would need 1/4" spacers for the fronts. I have determined the J55 brakes are pretty damn good and it's not like I am going to Nurburgring anytime soon, so I gave up thoughts of Z brakes on my '08.
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If i were to settle with any spacer i would only want to use an american made real alluminum billet one. I cant find anywhere that can make them. Any help
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1/4 inch spacer with ET lug nuts and you will have no issues. Can't remember where I got my spacers but I will try and find the bill when I have time and let you know. They are billet as opposed to the Chinese junk.
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If you can please do thank you. Im staying away from ebay for sure though.
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1/4 inch spacer with ET lug nuts and you will have no issues. Can't remember where I got my spacers but I will try and find the bill when I have time and let you know. They are billet as opposed to the Chinese junk.
Just curious, but what form are the Chinese spacers made from, if not billet? And is the billet you speak of, cast or extruded?
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Just curious, but what form are the Chinese spacers made from, if not billet? And is the billet you speak of, cast or extruded?
I am not a metal expert and don't really know. I just know that some cheap ones at a local parts store here looked like they were maybe cast or something. They looked a bit rough and almost brittle looking. Might not make a difference but I didn't feel comfortable with those.
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Originally Posted by HOXXOH
Just curious, but what form are the Chinese spacers made from, if not billet? And is the billet you speak of, cast or extruded?
I am not sure what they are made from but they feel cheap, weigh less than a piece of paper and feel like i can break them with my bare hands. Ive held some yesterday and just no.
And i am not sure what properly strong ones are made from. I just they are billet alluminum, but the real deal ones. Some even made from steal. There are plenty, but i only find big bolt on spacers. I can't find any 1/4" inch spacer and im not going to ebay for that
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So these front wheel specs are 18 x 9 with +50 offset. There is only 1/8 of an inch to literally clear the wide caliper from the spoke. So we can assume the wheel design is what it is and only needs a little more positive offset to clear the wide caliper.

So do you guys think if i buy the exact same wheel, but in a 18 x 9.5 +56 offset, it will fit? The wheel will be half an inch wider and the offset is 6mm more or about a quarter of an inch. Assuming the wheel design... do you guys think buying the new wheel in that size will work?
And i can sell the current ones. Brand spanking new
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Originally Posted by Jaime-Corvette
So these front wheel specs are 18 x 9 with +50 offset. There is only 1/8 of an inch to literally clear the wide caliper from the spoke. So we can assume the wheel design is what it is and only needs a little more positive offset to clear the wide caliper.

So do you guys think if i buy the exact same wheel, but in a 18 x 9.5 +56 offset, it will fit? The wheel will be half an inch wider and the offset is 6mm more or about a quarter of an inch. Assuming the wheel design... do you guys think buying the new wheel in that size will work?
And i can sell the current ones. Brand spanking new
You can figure that out with an online calculator.

I think its silly when you can must run a spacer, which wont cause any issues. I cant find the bill or remember where I got mine but if you just do a google search for wheel spacers you can find good quality, made in the USA ones easily.
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Originally Posted by realcanuk
You can figure that out with an online calculator.

I think its silly when you can must run a spacer, which wont cause any issues. I cant find the bill or remember where I got mine but if you just do a google search for wheel spacers you can find good quality, made in the USA ones easily.
Ok are you talking about the bolt on spacer? Or the spacer that is just a disc that slips in there? I can't find any company that makes those kind but they do make bolt on ones in a much unwanted bigger sizes.
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Ok are you talking about the bolt on spacer? Or the spacer that is just a disc that slips in there? I can't find any company that makes those kind but they do make bolt on ones in a much unwanted bigger sizes.
Not bolt on. I just run a 5mm spacer with my welds. Like I said, I don't remember where I go them but they are similar to these...


dam win 10.. my copy paste wont work today.... Search on Baer wheel spacers.
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Not bolt on. I just run a 5mm spacer with my welds. Like I said, I don't remember where I go them but they are similar to these...


dam win 10.. my copy paste wont work today.... Search on Baer wheel spacers.
Ok i got it https://baer.com/5x4.25-5x4.5-5x4.75/
Cant seem to change it to 1/4 inch though.

Edit: ok i got tge wide size at .250. Umm, if ibuy this i would have to get the threads (studs) longer right? How much and where to get them?

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Originally Posted by Jaime-Corvette
Ok i got it https://baer.com/5x4.25-5x4.5-5x4.75/
Cant seem to change it to 1/4 inch though.

Edit: ok i got tge wide size at .250. Umm, if ibuy this i would have to get the threads (studs) longer right? How much and where to get them?
You just need ET lug nuts..... time to use google..
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Check out motorsport-tech.com. That's where I bought my spacers and ET lugs. I wanted my wheels to be flush with my fenders. Excellent quality and service, have had them on for 2 years, no issues.
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Ok i just bought hubcebtric ring spacers from motorsport tech and they cost a pretty penny. I think now i need et lug nuts... or i hear longer studs is the right way to go? What do you guys say?

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Originally Posted by Jaime-Corvette
Ok i just bought hubcebtric ring spacers from motorsport tech and they cost a pretty penny. I think now i need et lug nuts... or i hear longer studs is the right way to go? What do you guys say?
I did ARP studs with SKF Bearings.

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Originally Posted by Jaime-Corvette
Ok i just bought hubcebtric ring spacers from motorsport tech and they cost a pretty penny. I think now i need et lug nuts... or i hear longer studs is the right way to go? What do you guys say?
They also sell the ET lugs!
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Originally Posted by Jaime-Corvette
Ok i just bought hubcebtric ring spacers from motorsport tech and they cost a pretty penny. I think now i need et lug nuts... or i hear longer studs is the right way to go? What do you guys say?
If you bought 1/4 inch like you wanted I already told told you ET nuts are fine so I'm out now.
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