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Old Nov 3, 2016 | 07:55 PM
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So going to upgrade to kooks 1 7/8 long tubes and their x pipe. Also adding a&a blower planning on 550+ rwhp.

So what's advantages or disadvantages to going with or without cats?
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Old Nov 3, 2016 | 08:38 PM
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With - less smell, can melt/clog
without - more smell, can't melt/clog

That's pretty much the gist of it

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Old Nov 3, 2016 | 09:01 PM
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Horrible noise without cats, pretty bad for the air we all breathe too.
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Old Nov 3, 2016 | 09:07 PM
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Horrible noise without cats, pretty bad for the air we all breathe too.
No cats sound amazing....don't smell bad (wife doesn't even complain).....I wouldn't follow a tractor-trailer then....
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Old Nov 3, 2016 | 09:43 PM
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Even with my high flow cats I still get some gas smell .... could not imagine what it would smell like without . Not worth the 3 to 5 horse gain .....

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Old Nov 4, 2016 | 12:08 AM
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The exhaust sounds a lot more harsh without them. If you have the NPP you can just shut the flaps and sound stock again so it doesn't matter.
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Old Nov 4, 2016 | 03:26 PM
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The exhaust sounds a lot more harsh without them. If you have the NPP you can just shut the flaps and sound stock again so it doesn't matter.
Exactly how mine is setup!!!
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Old Nov 4, 2016 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dcasole
Even with my high flow cats I still get some gas smell .... could not imagine what it would smell like without . Not worth the 3 to 5 horse gain .....
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Pretty sure it's about .9-1.5 rwhp going from hi flow cats to none. Inconsequential.
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Old Nov 5, 2016 | 04:31 AM
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No cats vs high-flow cats equal:

1. Federal Crime
2. Stinky Exhaust
3. <5 HP Gain.....If Any
4. Slightly More Exhaust Note

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Old Nov 5, 2016 | 08:28 PM
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what is the chance that the cat clogged and cost you the engine....on an blower car + meth?
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Old Nov 5, 2016 | 08:47 PM
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My stock cats fell apart at less than 600 hp and low boost. ARH cats lasted me less than a month at 780 rwhp and 14 lbs.
Both times could have caused engine damage if I hadn't caught it as they blocked the exhaust a lot, and caused increased boost and pinging.
I wouldn't take the risk again on a boosted car after my experiences.
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Old Nov 6, 2016 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Suns_PSD
Horrible noise without cats, pretty bad for the air we all breathe too.
I support global warming..



Oh, and I love the sound!

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Old Nov 6, 2016 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Dcasole
Even with my high flow cats I still get some gas smell .... could not imagine what it would smell like without . Not worth the 3 to 5 horse gain .....

Dave
It's not much different without than with, I had mine in but they were getting too hot and I could feel the heat from them not to mention they were burning the trans tunnel insulation. I had to take mine off, is much rather have them but between burning them up or melting them and burning my insulation, they had to go
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Old Nov 6, 2016 | 06:14 AM
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Running no cats on my SC LS2. Hate it. Can't drive it to work because I'll smell like exhaust. Putting the high flows back on next week.
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Old Nov 6, 2016 | 07:30 AM
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Cats will not last on FI, especially with exotic fuels. The key to running catless is a good tune. I'm catless with 100% meth and my factory exhaust on my truck smells worse than the vette.
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Old Nov 6, 2016 | 08:05 AM
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You might want to look into some of the more expensive high flow cats. They come in larger cases and difference mesh size. They are about 2+ times more expensive but with a blower it is just part of the game. You made need to do some custom work but they make a 4.5 inch diameter case size for bigger hp cars. Not sure if Randon Technology is still doing stuff but there are other companies out there like it. I think there is one in Maryland or Delaware - Vibrant Performance I think.
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Old Nov 6, 2016 | 08:26 AM
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Cats are a total waste of time and money on boosted cars unless you absolutely need them to pass tests or something.
If you the smell bothers you, you need a better tuner, not cats.
If the environmental issues really bother you, you wouldn't be driving a blown vette.
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Old Nov 6, 2016 | 07:31 PM
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After all the debate I'm going to go with kooks high flow cats. Last thing I need is to smell gas in my ride.
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No cats here

no bad smell
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Old Nov 7, 2016 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ESSFO
Running no cats on my SC LS2. Hate it. Can't drive it to work because I'll smell like exhaust. Putting the high flows back on next week.
Im having the same experience. I didnt install my catless xpipe and thinking whoever did must have done something wrong. With windows ooen the smell is too strong. With windows closed still some exhaust unless I hit recirc.

Is this normal without cats?
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