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Old 08-21-2017, 06:40 PM
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I have a 2005 C6 that dies after 50 minutes of running.
I just did a Snapshot and it shows the CMP RPM at 1012.
Any thoughts on how that is possible?
Obviously something is wrong but what?
I'm not going to just throw a new PCM at it. But hopefully someone here has some experience with this.
I have a few threads out there trolling for answers. But I think this one may get some attention.
Old 08-22-2017, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TedG
I have a 2005 C6 that dies after 50 minutes of running.
I just did a Snapshot and it shows the CMP RPM at 1012.
Any thoughts on how that is possible?
Obviously something is wrong but what?
I'm not going to just throw a new PCM at it. But hopefully someone here has some experience with this.
I have a few threads out there trolling for answers. But I think this one may get some attention.
does the CKP read approximately the same when it does this?if not it should.ever do a crank relearn procedure?
Old 08-22-2017, 02:27 PM
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does the CKP read approximately the same when it does this?if not it should.ever do a crank relearn procedure?
No, The CKP reads the actual RPM and dynamically changes
I checked my truck, and the CMP changes RPM.
Each time I try it, the RPM number is different but static, but even with the engine not running it shows somewhere between (975-1060) and stays there until the next time I hook up the Tech 2.
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Originally Posted by TedG
No, The CKP reads the actual RPM and dynamically changes
I checked my truck, and the CMP changes RPM.
Each time I try it, the RPM number is different but static, but even with the engine not running it shows somewhere between (975-1060) and stays there until the next time I hook up the Tech 2.
When you unplug the cam sensor and crank the motor, what does the scanner read? Is it "0?" or does it show a value?
Pull the sensor and check the end to see if anything like metal bits is stuck to the magnet. The trigger is cast into the cam gear, so if the engine is running, that isn't your problem....
If you had a lab scope, you could watch the pattern to see if you are getting a good square wave pattern to figure out if its a bad sensor or if its further down stream, like the PCM.
Weird.... could be wiring, could be connector pins at the sensor and/or the PCM....
Good luck and keep us posted.
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Originally Posted by lowflyer
When you unplug the cam sensor and crank the motor, what does the scanner read? Is it "0?" or does it show a value?
Pull the sensor and check the end to see if anything like metal bits is stuck to the magnet. The trigger is cast into the cam gear, so if the engine is running, that isn't your problem....
If you had a lab scope, you could watch the pattern to see if you are getting a good square wave pattern to figure out if its a bad sensor or if its further down stream, like the PCM.
Weird.... could be wiring, could be connector pins at the sensor and/or the PCM....
Good luck and keep us posted.
Well the problem is getting at the CMP it is buried, I haven't crawled underneath to see if I can get at it from there.
The engine runs flawlessly for an 40 min - hour not moving. I ran it with a cool breeze and it ran for over 2 but that may have been a fluke.
I do have an o-scope, albeit not an automotive but it is just fine to see the pulses.
I need to get at that sensor and look at it. I think if I am going to dig that deep, I should have a new one in hand and replace it good or bad. I already did the CKP.
I just wonder why it is reading a constant RPM.
It could be that something is disconnected and oscillating. The PCM's inputs are probably rock solid, outputs usually go.
Can't test it again, it is raining and may not heat enough.

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