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Old Nov 13, 2017 | 12:02 PM
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I think my shifter linkage may be out of adjustment, but I am looking for opinions here.

About 8 months ago the grommet that holds the linkage to the transmission had deteriorated. This was replaced at the dealership and required an entire new shifter/cable whatever.

This past week I started to notice that the car doesn't seem to have a first gear. If I put the car in 1st while stopped, it appears to take off like it is in 2nd gear.

When I am driving between 20-30 mph and manually shift the automatic from 2nd to 1st there is absolutely no gear change and no RPM change.

when I am driving on the freeway at 60mph and I shift from [D] to 3 there is no gear change or RPM change.

the shifter indicator on the console is turning the correct gear on the shifter to red when I am in each gear.

So basically it appears to be something like this:

1st gear = 2nd gear
2nd gear = 2nd gear
3rd gear = 3rd gear
4th gear = 3rd gear


I think the shifter cable may be out of adjustment. I've seen some threads on here on how to adjust it for the A6, but are those steps identical for adjusting the A4?

There is no CEL light and I assume if the automatic transmission was having internal failures that something would pop up or it would act much differently than this.

Thoughts?




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Old Nov 13, 2017 | 12:28 PM
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I don't have an actual answer. It sounds more like an internal trans problem but I also would expect a CEL. I suggest you find someone with a code reader that can read the TCM codes, not all can, even if you have to go to a dealer. If that proves okay then it may well be a cable/adjustment problem as you suggest. Please let us know what you find.
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Originally Posted by CitznFish
I think my shifter linkage may be out of adjustment, but I am looking for opinions here.

About 8 months ago the grommet that holds the linkage to the transmission had deteriorated. This was replaced at the dealership and required an entire new shifter/cable whatever.

This past week I started to notice that the car doesn't seem to have a first gear. If I put the car in 1st while stopped, it appears to take off like it is in 2nd gear.

When I am driving between 20-30 mph and manually shift the automatic from 2nd to 1st there is absolutely no gear change and no RPM change.

when I am driving on the freeway at 60mph and I shift from [D] to 3 there is no gear change or RPM change.

the shifter indicator on the console is turning the correct gear on the shifter to red when I am in each gear.

So basically it appears to be something like this:

1st gear = 2nd gear
2nd gear = 2nd gear
3rd gear = 3rd gear
4th gear = 3rd gear


I think the shifter cable may be out of adjustment. I've seen some threads on here on how to adjust it for the A6, but are those steps identical for adjusting the A4?

There is no CEL light and I assume if the automatic transmission was having internal failures that something would pop up or it would act much differently than this.

Thoughts?




TIA
CF
Seems like trans put itself in the protective mode (Something like that) Car starts from 3rd gear and only shifts into overdrive. Most of the times CEL wont come on. May cause from various things. Happened to me when I had a a4 back then. Turned out one of the cables of the main plug gone bad. Another time on a friends car this caused from one of the unplugged selenoids in the trans. Go get it checked out probably nothing big
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Seems like trans put itself in the protective mode (Something like that) Car starts from 3rd gear and only shifts into overdrive. Most of the times CEL wont come on. May cause from various things. Happened to me when I had a a4 back then. Turned out one of the cables of the main plug gone bad. Another time on a friends car this caused from one of the unplugged selenoids in the trans. Go get it checked out probably nothing big


Interesting..do you remember if the transmission would kick down a gear if you floored it while moving? Mine will...
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Yikes..

Dealer got back to me. Car only has 2nd and 3rd gear. Claims the fluid looks burnt. Wants almost $5k for a new transmission with a 100k warranty The claim there is a transmission solenoid code thrown but the CEL light never came on. Dealer says it would be 10 hours in labor to pull the transmission and he doesn't think the effort to fix the existing transmission is worth it.

I am not sure I believe him, but I never trust service departments at any dealership. Transmission made no unusual noise, worked just fine until this happened. The fluid was even changed 7 months ago.


Car has 202k miles on it. Not worth the cost of repairs IMO.


Not sure what my next move will be, this just sucks

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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CitznFish
Yikes..

Dealer got back to me. Car only has 2nd and 3rd gear. Claims the fluid looks burnt. Wants almost $5k for a new transmission with a 100k warranty The claim there is a transmission solenoid code thrown but the CEL light never came on. Dealer says it would be 10 hours in labor to pull the transmission and he doesn't think the effort to fix the existing transmission is worth it.

I am not sure I believe him, but I never trust service departments at any dealership. Transmission made no unusual noise, worked just fine until this happened. The fluid was even changed 7 months ago.


Car has 202k miles on it. Not worth the cost of repairs IMO.


Not sure what my next move will be, this just sucks
you can buy a remanufactured 4L65E p/n 12491926 from GM for $1,900. with a 3 year warranty.will be even cheaper than that with upcoming "Black Friday" sales.there are indie shops that install for $500.

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Old Nov 16, 2017 | 02:45 PM
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you can buy a remanufactured 4L65E p/n 12491926 from GM for $1,900. with a 3 year warranty.will be even cheaper than that with upcoming "Black Friday" sales.there are indie shops that install for $500.
Do you know what website? genuinegmparts.com shows the transmission for $2k but no way to buy it...
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Originally Posted by CitznFish
Do you know what website? genuinegmparts.com shows the transmission for $2k but no way to buy it...
cheapestgmparts.com and several others out there.Cultrag is a vendor on here.watch for vendors that are having "Black Friday" sales.you will need to return your trany for core charge.gmpartsoutlet.net $1,876.

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Originally Posted by CitznFish
I think my shifter linkage may be out of adjustment, but I am looking for opinions here.

About 8 months ago the grommet that holds the linkage to the transmission had deteriorated. This was replaced at the dealership and required an entire new shifter/cable whatever.

This past week I started to notice that the car doesn't seem to have a first gear. If I put the car in 1st while stopped, it appears to take off like it is in 2nd gear.

When I am driving between 20-30 mph and manually shift the automatic from 2nd to 1st there is absolutely no gear change and no RPM change.

when I am driving on the freeway at 60mph and I shift from [D] to 3 there is no gear change or RPM change.

the shifter indicator on the console is turning the correct gear on the shifter to red when I am in each gear.

So basically it appears to be something like this:

1st gear = 2nd gear
2nd gear = 2nd gear
3rd gear = 3rd gear
4th gear = 3rd gear


I think the shifter cable may be out of adjustment. I've seen some threads on here on how to adjust it for the A6, but are those steps identical for adjusting the A4?

There is no CEL light and I assume if the automatic transmission was having internal failures that something would pop up or it would act much differently than this.

Thoughts?




TIA
CF

Are you positive you had 2 gears? When the tranny goes into limp mode you'll have 3rd gear and no other gear.
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Originally Posted by CitznFish
I think my shifter linkage may be out of adjustment, but I am looking for opinions here.

About 8 months ago the grommet that holds the linkage to the transmission had deteriorated. This was replaced at the dealership and required an entire new shifter/cable whatever.

This past week I started to notice that the car doesn't seem to have a first gear. If I put the car in 1st while stopped, it appears to take off like it is in 2nd gear.

When I am driving between 20-30 mph and manually shift the automatic from 2nd to 1st there is absolutely no gear change and no RPM change.

when I am driving on the freeway at 60mph and I shift from [D] to 3 there is no gear change or RPM change.

the shifter indicator on the console is turning the correct gear on the shifter to red when I am in each gear.

So basically it appears to be something like this:

1st gear = 2nd gear
2nd gear = 2nd gear
3rd gear = 3rd gear
4th gear = 3rd gear


I think the shifter cable may be out of adjustment. I've seen some threads on here on how to adjust it for the A6, but are those steps identical for adjusting the A4?

There is no CEL light and I assume if the automatic transmission was having internal failures that something would pop up or it would act much differently than this.

Thoughts?




TIA
CF
I know this is a old post but did you ever find out what the problem was. My 05 is doing the same thing.
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