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Old Mar 24, 2021 | 01:35 PM
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any ideas? Have been spraying PB blaster on them and I am trying to break loose with an 18 inch breaker bar. There is some rust. Not sure when they have been removed last.

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Impact?
Dont have.
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Silly question...you ARE turning to the left? If so and they're not budging, put a length of pipe over the breaker bar and lift with your legs.
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Originally Posted by Pb82 Ronin
Silly question...you ARE turning to the left? If so and they're not budging, put a length of pipe over the breaker bar and lift with your legs.

lol I thought the same thing. Yes I confirmed twice that I’m going that right way. I’m going to the hardware store now to get a pipe. Thanks for the reply
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Originally Posted by Pb82 Ronin
Impact?
Yes, use an impact wrench. Go to your friendly local mechanic, give him $20, and have him impact them off. Giant breaker bars may just break the lugs, and then you have a more expensive/ troublesome problem.
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Originally Posted by John Harry
Yes, use an impact wrench. Go to your friendly local mechanic, give him $20, and have him impact them off. Giant breaker bars may just break the lugs, and then you have a more expensive/ troublesome problem.
^^^This^^^

I'd also replace the lug nuts with new ones.
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Ended up breaking one loose, then broke my break breaker bar. Sitting at the shop about to get impacted!
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Originally Posted by wood78221
Ended up breaking one loose, then broke my break breaker bar. Sitting at the shop about to get impacted!
They usually get stuck from being frequently removed and installed while using a torque wrench. I know they're supposed to be torqued to a certain value but I had to stop doing it that way after having it happen several times on my race car. Ever since then I just tighten them by hand and it hasn't happened again since.

The bad news for you however is that if one got stuck it's more a question of when, not if it's gonna happen to the others on that one and the other wheel hub.
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They got me fixed up at the shop. Thanks for the replies ya'll.

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Congrats. Just to add that you can increase the torque that you can manually apply greatly by using a pipe over your breaker bar. The handle for your jack is often a good option.

I would like to hear how you broke the breaker and was it a name brand?
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Congrats. Just to add that you can increase the torque that you can manually apply greatly by using a pipe over your breaker bar. The handle for your jack is often a good option.

I would like to hear how you broke the breaker and was it a name brand?
The breaker bar broke where it connects to the socket. It was Pittsburgh from Harbor Freight. They gave me a a replacement today also.
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Put some white lithium grease on your studs and you won't have this problem again.
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I purchased an electric impact on sale that torques to 240 and It has served me well over the years.
Glad to hear that you got the lug nuts off without issue.
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I would use anti seize compound, there water proof, and you will never have problem again.
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Originally Posted by 1bdvet
I would use anti seize compound, there water proof, and you will never have problem again.
Agree.
Also never use a powered wrench to tighten lug nuts. Always use a hand torque wrench to tighten to spec. Re-torque after a couple of drives. I've been successful removing stubborn nuts and bolts with completely covering a breaker bar with a length of copper tubing a couple of feet longer than breaker.
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I have been using white lithium grease for 40 years. It has worked great. No lugs stuck ever and no busted studs. And no - the lugs nuts don't fall off as some people claim that will happen with lubricated studs.

I also put a thin coat on the hub where the center bore of the wheel fits. That prevents rust from seizing the wheel to the hub.
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Hi All, Please be aware lug nuts are supposed to be Torqued Clean ad Dry to achieve the proper Torque.
According to SAE by lubricating you Cannot reach proper Torque. Torque is measured thru friction.
Just saying!
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Clean and dry means you will at some point have seized lug nuts. No thanks.

Friction only provides some of the torque you measure. Most of the torque comes from tension of the nut and stud clamping the wheel against the hub.

I will continue to lube mine - everyone else is free to do as they choose.
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