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Old Sep 25, 2021 | 06:21 PM
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My 2009 coupe C6 is Automatic and I have noticed that it kinda bogs a little around town and just a little when I am jumping on the freeway in the lower gears. I read that if I went with some lower gears in the rear end it would be a big difference and help eliminate that sort of low end bog that the automatics have. The transmission is fine but it does seem to want to shift a little early through the gears especially when I am just cruising around town and I am sure it is because GM wanted to get the gas mileage up for the c6 ls3. Well I have had enough of that and did not buy my corvette for good gas mileage, I was wondering if someone could share some of the knowledge or experiences with this issue or idea I have. I have the 2.56 rear end gears and I am thinking of going to the 2.73 which should take care of the slight bog in the lower gears and I really do not go 180 or 200 on the freeway ever so I dont need the tall gears. Has anyone done this who can shed some light on this for me or has anyone decided to go with the 2.73 as a option when ordering their vette? I believe the Z51 package came with 2.73 on the Auto..?? Thanks for taking the time to read ...
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My 2009 coupe C6 is Automatic and I have noticed that it kinda bogs a little around town and just a little when I am jumping on the freeway in the lower gears. I read that if I went with some lower gears in the rear end it would be a big difference and help eliminate that sort of low end bog that the automatics have. The transmission is fine but it does seem to want to shift a little early through the gears especially when I am just cruising around town and I am sure it is because GM wanted to get the gas mileage up for the c6 ls3. Well I have had enough of that and did not buy my corvette for good gas mileage, I was wondering if someone could share some of the knowledge or experiences with this issue or idea I have. I have the 2.56 rear end gears and I am thinking of going to the 2.73 which should take care of the slight bog in the lower gears and I really do not go 180 or 200 on the freeway ever so I dont need the tall gears. Has anyone done this who can shed some light on this for me or has anyone decided to go with the 2.73 as a option when ordering their vette? I believe the Z51 package came with 2.73 on the Auto..?? Thanks for taking the time to read ...
2.73 gears will help but not that much as my 2011 Grand Sport is still kinda sluggish off the line. If you REALLY want to wake it up I'd highly recommend a 3.42 differential from a C6 Z06 as it'll feel like you've added a 100hp without ever having to touch the engine.
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Old Sep 25, 2021 | 10:18 PM
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Forget changing the rear differential gear ratio.

Get rid of the stock 1,700 rpm stall torque converter and replace it with a 2,800 - 3.000 rpm stall torque converter ... Circle-D converter is a good choice.

Big Big difference on how the car will launch !
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I have the 2.56 rear end gears and I am thinking of going to the 2.73 which should take care of the slight bog in the lower gears and I really do not go 180 or 200 on the freeway ever so I dont need the tall gears. Has anyone done this who can shed some light on this for me or has anyone decided to go with the 2.73 as a option when ordering their vette? I believe the Z51 package came with 2.73 on the Auto..?? Thanks for taking the time to read ...
The step from 2.56 to 2.73 in the Z51 and GS models is relatively small (6.6% shorter) and will not make a great deal of difference in the performance feel of your car.

However, RPM Transmissions offers 2.93 (14.4% shorter) and 3.15 (23% shorter) differential options for the A6 which would certainly make the car feel livelier, and not just stepping off from a standstill.

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Well that sounds even better yes. I am guessing that all Z06 C6 come with 3.42 gears ? Where would be the best place to get the gears in your opinion ? As I do not know too much about rear end components or where to have them installed ? How much do they cost and should I get new ones or can I buy used gears ?
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My 2009 coupe C6 is Automatic and I have noticed that it kinda bogs a little around town and just a little when I am jumping on the freeway in the lower gears.
I drive my '09 LS3 automatic in manual mode using the paddle shifters when I want faster acceleration. I also found it can take-off in 2nd gear (skipping 1st) quite nicely while paddle shifting
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Old Sep 26, 2021 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo6TA
Forget changing the rear differential gear ratio.

Get rid of the stock 1,700 rpm stall torque converter and replace it with a 2,800 - 3.000 rpm stall torque converter ... Circle-D converter is a good choice.

Big Big difference on how the car will launch !
I would probably step it up to a 3200 if I was going to make the change; I would absolutely go 3k minimum. There are plenty who would tell you to go 3600, and I've seen a few that run a 4k on the street.
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Originally Posted by standup triple
My 2009 coupe C6 is Automatic and I have noticed that it kinda bogs a little around town and just a little when I am jumping on the freeway in the lower gears. I read that if I went with some lower gears in the rear end it would be a big difference and help eliminate that sort of low end bog that the automatics have. The transmission is fine but it does seem to want to shift a little early through the gears especially when I am just cruising around town and I am sure it is because GM wanted to get the gas mileage up for the c6 ls3. Well I have had enough of that and did not buy my corvette for good gas mileage, I was wondering if someone could share some of the knowledge or experiences with this issue or idea I have. I have the 2.56 rear end gears and I am thinking of going to the 2.73 which should take care of the slight bog in the lower gears and I really do not go 180 or 200 on the freeway ever so I dont need the tall gears. Has anyone done this who can shed some light on this for me or has anyone decided to go with the 2.73 as a option when ordering their vette? I believe the Z51 package came with 2.73 on the Auto..?? Thanks for taking the time to read ...
I have an 09/A6 with the same situation. However, I had a 94 with the 3.08 and thought the same; going to 3.73. I’ll never do it again. I didn’t like the highway RPM’s. Anything over 60 mph for that matter.

I’d consider doing a different torque converter if I end up doing something of that nature with my C6. That’s just my experience though.
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One other thought; you might want to try a tune. The OEM torque reduction programmed in to "protect" the transmission results in built in hesitation. I removed most of the torque reduction and slightly tweaked both the engine and transmission parameters some. It made a big difference in responsiveness. And the Vitesse throttle controller also allowed me to tailor throttle tip in to my preference - SP4 - so it responds more like a cable driven throttle.
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Yes I have heard that if you find a good tuner they can tune the transmission to shift later and to shift firmer if you want which is something I might want to wait until I install a trans cooler then go with the tune just to be safe.. ??...Thanks for all the input
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Well that sounds even better yes. I am guessing that all Z06 C6 come with 3.42 gears ? Where would be the best place to get the gears in your opinion ? As I do not know too much about rear end components or where to have them installed ? How much do they cost and should I get new ones or can I buy used gears ?
The "standard" rear gear ratios for a C6 are as follows:

Standard Auto: 2.56:1
Z51/ Grand Sport Auto: 2.73:1
All manuals (C6 Coupe, GS, Z06, ZR1): 3.42:1

As mentioned, aftermarket / other options include 2.93:1 and 3.15:1.

However the individual gear ratios for 1st etc. are different so the overall differences aren't that big.

To change the gear ratio you can either change just the ring and pinion gears themselves in your existing differential housing (a local transmission shop should be able to do this for you) or you buy a complete differential, either in exchange for yours or as an extra (keep your original).

A new set of ring and pinion gears might run you close to $1000, and maybe $500-1000 in labor to get them into your car (remove diff from car, replace and setup gears in diff, reinstall diff in car).

A performance upgraded rear diff unit from a specialist might cost you $2000-2500, and a few hundred to get it swapped out.

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I put a Yank SS3600 in my 99 Z28 HCI. The converter was so street friendly. Many people in the LS1 cars would do the ss3600 with bone stock motors too
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I had an 02 auto (4spd) and went from 3:15 to 3:73 and liked it alot, used the Diablo tuner to correct for gears. I would say go with 3:15's and it will be a fun ride and with a six spd auto there will be no problems on the highway.
All your gears will pull harder. If you go to low you will be spinning the tires all the time when you get into it. You will need to program it to correct for the gears. (Best cost effective way would be the 3:42's from a manual car, change the whole diff out)

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I had an 02 auto (4spd) and went from 3:15 to 3:73 and liked it alot, used the Diablo tuner to correct for gears. I would say go with 3:15's and it will be a fun ride and with a six spd auto there will be no problems on the highway.
All your gears will pull harder. If you go to low you will be spinning the tires all the time when you get into it. You will need to program it to correct for the gears. (Best cost effective way would be the 3:42's from a manual car, change the whole diff out)
agree, I’d go with 3.15’s if I did make a change in the rear, highway driving 3.73 is a bit much for me.
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Yea, the 4 spd auto is geared taller in the trans gears, so 3.73 was good, but the 6 spd because of the gears in the trans would be better with 3:15 or 3:42.
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Just a heads up if you're interested.

I've got a 3.15 RPM built C6 diff for sale.
C6 diff out of a 2007 C6 with 30,000 miles.
RPM installed left and right hardened shafts.
RPM re-splined a 3.15 gear to mate with a 30-spline transmission.
Estimated the new gear has maybe 2000-3000 street miles.

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A 6.6% change in gear ratio will be hardly noticeable and isn't worth the effort or expense, IMO. The cure for your problem is a good TQ converter as has been mentioned in this thread. Do your research and don't get caught up in higher higher higher stall RPMs unless you are seriously into racing (been there, done that.) A really good 2800-3500 stall would be my recommendation as a starting point for a street machine.
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If it’s just a cruise around car get 3.42 gears and a tune. If you like/want to drag race it get the stall and/or gears.

From the way I read your post, it seems you just want a cruiser and couldn’t care less about drag racing it. If I’m right then get the 3.42 gears. Your car will run about 2000 rpm at 70 mph and I think mpgs will only go down a couple.

the 3.42s didn’t make my car much quicker at the drag strip but I loved the way it drove around town with them.

I just recently got rpm to build me another rearend for my car and it was $2500 with me sending my differential to them.

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Perfect thank you for your post that is what i needed to hear thanks again !!!
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