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Old Oct 11, 2021 | 09:44 PM
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Alright I been doing a lot of research. But half the time, I can’t understand the damn acronyms.

So I want to do Cold air intake, headers, exhaust etc with a medium cam and heads

Main question is, are there any COMPLETE good packages that can be bought for the heads and cam. I don’t really care if it’s BTR, Texas speed etc and I’m going to call whatever company I pick to tailor which cam would suit my needs the best.
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Its a pain trying to figure out what components cam/will fit with other components. Closest thing I’ve found is the stage 2/3 cam packages on BTR. They give you options for lifters and stuff to add into the package.

So what else do I need? Is it just a BTR type package and some random heads that I choose? Do all heads work with any cam I choose? For the heads side of the equation, are there any extra “things” that I need to buy as well?

From my understanding all I need is a cam package and a pair of heads along with all the other bolt on things I mentioned (CAI, headers exhaust). What else do I need? I heard you need a new head gasket with new heads.

All I’m looking for is clarification for my “shopping list”. Not asking for suggestions on which/how big of a cam I want. I already have a good picture while scrolling through the forums. As of right now, I’m leaning towards a state 2 or 3 BTR Cam package.

I did as much scrolling through the forum as possible before I asked this question.

Would something like this have everything I need?
https://www.texas-speed.com/p-4252-precision-race-components-cnc-ported-6-bolt-265cc-aftermarket-casting-ls7-heads-cam-package.aspx

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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 06:27 AM
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You're working with an LS7?

You'll need head gaskets and head bolts at a minimum. You can't reuse stock head bolts. Probably timing chain and numerous gaskets and seals. Depending on how many miles your engine has, maybe an oil pump. It's a good time to replace the crank pulley as it is a noted weak point. You can pick up a few hp by using an underdrive pulley. Tx Speed has a bolt and gasket kit that will get you most of what you need. 28-HCDELUXE Deluxe Heads & Camshaft Bolt & Gasket Kit (texas-speed.com)

Are you going to have your heads worked, or are you going with aftermarket heads? I would for sure go with new lifters.

Any of the milder cams will work with just about any head you choose. Nothing really to "match" there. That's assuming you don't mill the heads a bunch.

You might want to consider some type of budget before going too far. Heads can be as cheap as a grand to have yours worked to maybe 5 grand if you want some of Tony Mammo's masterpieces.

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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 09:17 AM
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With the known issues with OEM LS7 heads I would definitely swap to a good aftermarket set if I was opening the engine up.
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Originally Posted by Terminator04
Alright I been doing a lot of research. But half the time, I can’t understand the damn acronyms.

So I want to do Cold air intake, headers, exhaust etc with a medium cam and heads

Main question is, are there any COMPLETE good packages that can be bought for the heads and cam. I don’t really care if it’s BTR, Texas speed etc and I’m going to call whatever company I pick to tailor which cam would suit my needs the best.
BUT
Its a pain trying to figure out what components cam/will fit with other components. Closest thing I’ve found is the stage 2/3 cam packages on BTR. They give you options for lifters and stuff to add into the package.

So what else do I need? Is it just a BTR type package and some random heads that I choose? Do all heads work with any cam I choose? For the heads side of the equation, are there any extra “things” that I need to buy as well?

From my understanding all I need is a cam package and a pair of heads along with all the other bolt on things I mentioned (CAI, headers exhaust). What else do I need? I heard you need a new head gasket with new heads.

All I’m looking for is clarification for my “shopping list”. Not asking for suggestions on which/how big of a cam I want. I already have a good picture while scrolling through the forums. As of right now, I’m leaning towards a state 2 or 3 BTR Cam package.

I did as much scrolling through the forum as possible before I asked this question.

Would something like this have everything I need?
https://www.texas-speed.com/p-4252-p...m-package.aspx
Step 1 - Know what your goals are, whether it's HP/TQ or ET/MPH or driveability or setting up for future mods.

Step 2 - Call BTR and walk through it with them, they will help you put together a package that will get you were you want to be.

Not saying there aren't people on here that are knowledgeable BUT there are some on here that want to tell you what to do and give advice and they haven't done **** themselves, they just heard it from so and so, or read it from elsewhere, etc.

Just my .02
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I did more research. Found the rpm packages. As of rn might do the stage 3 rpm package

or

102mm throttle body
Mamo intake manifold
CAI
headers
ahp package 4 heads

The second options is essentially the stage 4 rpm package without the cam lol

im leaning towards the 2nd option because (ik I’m gonna sound like a wuss), I want full reliability. Those mods should amount to around 530-550whp which is more than enough for me. I know I cud achieve the same with a simple heads can swap but I’d rather do bolt ons with the mamo intake manifold.
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Old Oct 13, 2021 | 08:29 AM
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OP has 2 threads going on same subject, 1 here, 1 in ZR1/Z06. You should probably ask Mods to close 1 of them, and stay with the other. Just sayin'.....
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Old Oct 13, 2021 | 09:09 AM
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Just my opinion ... but if I were you, I would save the money that a set of ported heads cost and just install a set of headers and a cam along with a good dyno tune.

The stock LS heads flow very well as is ... just not a lot of 'bang for the buck' changing out your heads (unless you are modifying a race car for max HP)
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Originally Posted by Turbo6TA
Just my opinion ... but if I were you, I would save the money that a set of ported heads cost and just install a set of headers and a cam along with a good dyno tune.

The stock LS heads flow very well as is ... just not a lot of 'bang for the buck' changing out your heads (unless you are modifying a race car for max HP)
dont the heads have the cable guide issue though?
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Originally Posted by Terminator04

dont the heads have the cable guide issue though?
I have no idea what your talking about ... Never heard of a "Cable Guide"

Do you mean a "Valve Guide" issue ?
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BTW ... You never told use what engine you even have (LS2, LS3, LS7 or LS9) ?

You really need to be more specific if you want some help here ... we can't read your mind
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Originally Posted by Turbo6TA
BTW ... You never told use what engine you even have (LS2, LS3, LS7 or LS9) ?

You really need to be more specific if you want some help here ... we can't read your mind
my bad. Ls7. Valve guide issue. I’m guessing it auto corrected to cable guide
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Originally Posted by Terminator04
my bad. Ls7. Valve guide issue. I’m guessing it auto corrected to cable guide
Being LS7 heads.. And this is just my .02, I would sell them for decent money and add to it and buy aftermarket set that won't have valve guide issue.
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Old Oct 13, 2021 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by da6speed
Being LS7 heads.. And this is just my .02, I would sell them for decent money and add to it and buy aftermarket set that won't have valve guide issue.
Folks like West Coast Cylinder Heads and Tx Speed that offer stock LS7 cylinder head upgrades aren't trustworthy? Not saying anything you said is wrong, just wanting to know the reasons behind your post. I have a project that would be **** with an LS7 under the hood. If I have to spend 3 to 5K on cylinder heads makes it a no go.
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Originally Posted by Terminator04

Valve guide issue. I’m guessing it auto corrected to cable guide
You know, you can go back to your post and correct any mistakes you previously made.

It's got to be a pain in the *** posting to this forum using a cellphone vs a real computer.
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Old Oct 13, 2021 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo6TA
You know, you can go back to your post and correct any mistakes you previously made.

It's got to be a pain in the *** posting to this forum using a cellphone vs a real computer.

u are indeed correct my friend. Also, I’ve never used a forum so I’m already clueless lol
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Terminator ...

Not to be a smart ***, but how old are you ?
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Originally Posted by Turbo6TA
Terminator ...

Not to be a smart ***, but how old are you ?
I’m 22
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Originally Posted by da6speed
Being LS7 heads.. And this is just my .02, I would sell them for decent money and add to it and buy aftermarket set that won't have valve guide issue.
I love guys like you, do you really think GM NEVER addressed the issue? as soon as it happened it was fixed PERMENETLY !
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THE OP needs to do ALOT of reading. Buddy we don't know #1 what your goals are #2 what your budget is like. what your asking for if someone else does the work with parts on the low end could be $10.000 or it could be $30.000, example headers installed is $3000 average
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Old Oct 13, 2021 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jonjoy
THE OP needs to do ALOT of reading. Buddy we don't know #1 what your goals are #2 what your budget is like. what your asking for if someone else does the work with parts on the low end could be $10.000 or it could be $30.000, example headers installed is $3000 average
I pretty much got all my questions answered rn. I did a lot more research since I posted the threat. How can I close it?
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