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Old Dec 31, 2021 | 05:34 PM
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Default A6 tranny getting too hot! Help please

I posted last week and thought that I had it all figured out but I dont.

2011 grand sport auto
ECS T trim (newly installed)
3500 stall Circle D (installed few months ago)
B&M Supercooler plate tranny cooler 70266 - 11"X8"X 1.5" thick - stacked plate design.
E 85 fuel system.


Fresh blower install so Im taking it fairly easy - im not ******* it at all.
It was running up to 220 in 40 degree weather driving normally - this was with no fan on the cooler and the cooler NOT in front of the radiator - the intercooler is not leaving enough room.
Today I installed an electric fan pushing thru the fan - there isnt room to put it on the other side to have it pull.
It was better, but still got up to 210 after 1 spirited run, and driving 65mph on the interstate for 15 still didnt cool it down ANY.
Should I put it back thru the radiator and then thru the cooler?
Or is the cooler big enough? Im struggling.

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Old Jan 1, 2022 | 11:47 AM
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What RPM are you running while driving around? A 3500 converter is going to put a lot of heat into the fluid if you are driving with the RPM under the stall speed.
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What RPM are you running while driving around? A 3500 converter is going to put a lot of heat into the fluid if you are driving with the RPM under the stall speed.
its still building heat when at highway speed with converter locked up in 6th. 1500 rpm at 70mph.

it’s a street car and I’m really tempted to put the stock converter back in.
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Old Jan 1, 2022 | 02:32 PM
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With a high stall TC, you will need a good Trans cooler.

Got a Derale cooler (around 12x12 inches) with built-in fan, installed in series with the radiator. Temps never exceed 190 now. Please keep us posted
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Originally Posted by DonC6LS3
its still building heat when at highway speed with converter locked up in 6th. 1500 rpm at 70mph.

it’s a street car and I’m really tempted to put the stock converter back in.
Is the cam stock? If so, not sure why you need a higher stall converter
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Old Jan 2, 2022 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by lilcuda
Is the cam stock? If so, not sure why you need a higher stall converter
ever street or track launched on a stock converter?
that’s why lol
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Old Jan 2, 2022 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DonC6LS3
ever street or track launched on a stock converter?
that’s why lol
I prefer manuals. Haven’t a hot rod with an automatic since 1986.
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Old Jan 2, 2022 | 11:53 AM
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try the Trucool 40k cooler i know AMP here in Texas uses them with alot of success
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Originally Posted by lilcuda
I prefer manuals. Haven’t a hot rod with an automatic since 1986.
thanks for adding nothing at all other than your unsolicited opinion! lol
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Originally Posted by DonC6LS3
thanks for adding nothing at all other than your unsolicited opinion! lol
You actually did solicit opinions by asking the question. I did give some feedback regarding the stall speed and replied to your comment asking if I had launched a car with a stock converter. Sorry you didn’t like my response.

So rather than being a jerk about it, I’m going to offer more info. Are you sure the converter isn’t slipping at 1500 when you are cruising?
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Originally Posted by lilcuda
You actually did solicit opinions by asking the question. I did give some feedback regarding the stall speed and replied to your comment asking if I had launched a car with a stock converter. Sorry you didn’t like my response.

So rather than being a jerk about it, I’m going to offer more info. Are you sure the converter isn’t slipping at 1500 when you are cruising?
It’s Obviously not locked at 1500.
it doesn’t appear to be slipping - just looser than I like.
sorry about the rude response - I’m old and cranky
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Old Jan 2, 2022 | 05:22 PM
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post up some pics of your set up and also maybe get this moved to the power adder section or start another thread over there asking the same question
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Originally Posted by DonC6LS3
its still building heat when at highway speed with converter locked up in 6th. 1500 rpm at 70mph.

it’s a street car and I’m really tempted to put the stock converter back in.
Originally Posted by DonC6LS3
It’s Obviously not locked at 1500.
it doesn’t appear to be slipping - just looser than I like.
sorry about the rude response - I’m old and cranky
No worries. I’m trying to not take things too seriously on the internet in 2022. Anyway, I’m a bit confused because first you said it’s locked, then not. If you know what the stock stall speed is, why not get a converter that splits the difference between the stock converter and your current one?
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Originally Posted by lilcuda
No worries. I’m trying to not take things too seriously on the internet in 2022. Anyway, I’m a bit confused because first you said it’s locked, then not. If you know what the stock stall speed is, why not get a converter that splits the difference between the stock converter and your current one?
im paying a shop to do the swaps so I only wanna do it one more time.
mom really considering going back to the stock converter.
the guy at circle D said that this converter would be great for n/a as well as a centrifugal blower.
from my notes, it’s a 245mm pro series single disc.
ot felt way too loose before the blower and as as much or even more so now.
Only mods are;
longntubes
no cats
npp (oem)
ecs blower
ecs stage 2 fuel E85 setup
fic 1200 inj

its a 2011 grand sport vert. I won’t be taking to the drag strip. I only went with the converter because stick converter and stock tall gear ratio, I could only get 2.0 60’ with my draggy with drag radials - zero traction issues. It would dead hook.
it was faster for sure with new converter but it’s felt too loose since day 1.

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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DonC6LS3
im paying a shop to do the swaps so I only wanna do it one more time.
mom really considering going back to the stock converter.
the guy at circle D said that this converter would be great for n/a as well as a centrifugal blower.
from my notes, it’s a 245mm pro series single disc.

ot felt way too loose before the blower and as as much or even more so now.
Only mods are;
longntubes
no cats
npp (oem)
ecs blower
ecs stage 2 fuel E85 setup
fic 1200 inj

its a 2011 grand sport vert. I won’t be taking to the drag strip. I only went with the converter because stick converter and stock tall gear ratio, I could only get 2.0 60’ with my draggy with drag radials - zero traction issues. It would dead hook.
it was faster for sure with new converter but it’s felt too loose since day 1.
ok thats a little strange because i thought they would have suggested their 258mm converter with a blower car? in your discussion did you say maybe it was going to be NA for awhile with the possibility of a supercharger perhaps? anyway i think it may be the converter there was a youtuber recently that had a similar issue converter wise with Circle D
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Omega Doom
ok thats a little strange because i thought they would have suggested their 258mm converter with a blower car? in your discussion did you say maybe it was going to be NA for awhile with the possibility of a supercharger perhaps? anyway i think it may be the converter there was a youtuber recently that had a similar issue converter wise with Circle D
it is a 245mm converter.
he’s gonna have some explaining to do.
id love to see that YouTube video
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I have used that same cooler for years without issue. First location, I had it sandwiched between the IC and AC condenser and it worked fine, kept trans under 200 most of the time. I then relocated it to behind drivers foglight with a puller fan behind it, still no issue but I haven't put near as many mile on it there as previously.
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Originally Posted by DonC6LS3
im paying a shop to do the swaps so I only wanna do it one more time.
mom really considering going back to the stock converter.
the guy at circle D said that this converter would be great for n/a as well as a centrifugal blower.
from my notes, it’s a 245mm pro series single disc.
ot felt way too loose before the blower and as as much or even more so now.
Only mods are;
longntubes
no cats
npp (oem)
ecs blower
ecs stage 2 fuel E85 setup
fic 1200 inj

its a 2011 grand sport vert. I won’t be taking to the drag strip. I only went with the converter because stick converter and stock tall gear ratio, I could only get 2.0 60’ with my draggy with drag radials - zero traction issues. It would dead hook.
it was faster for sure with new converter but it’s felt too loose since day 1.
well just so im clear is the engine temp or tranny temp
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Originally Posted by Omega Doom
well just so im clear is the engine temp or tranny temp
tranny only
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DonC6LS3
tranny only
the youtuber goes by AndrewD843 good stuff put out on his videos now he switches converters and he has other videos i just chose this video as base watch his others on his Vette now he uses several cams but mmost are centri cams and he does run nitrous so its a power adder but the videos are mainly NA stuff hope this helps or just gives you info
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