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Any ceramic that comes in a plastic bottle is not a ceramic coating. Its hardly much more than a detail spray. They work, but require frequent reapplication. Ignore the manufacturer claims about longevity. I use casey performance because they currently have the highest content of silicon dioxide in their products. This is used over a layer of turtle wax graphene ceramic wax. I like the combo, but am looking into adams graphene products.
True ceramics do not come in a plastic bottle. They can't. I have tried multiple ceramic sprays and their effectiveness is almost completely gone after 3 garden hose washes. I now apply them over a graphene ceramic wax and get better results. Not saying they don't have a place, but you cannot apply these to your car and claim you have a ceramic coating.
Just to add to my above post, there are manufacturers who are switching to glass containers to try and push their products as true. A true ceramic should be around 80% silicon dioxide. That is the primary component in ceramic coatings. A true ceramic coating will not and cannot come out of a spray nozzle. It will clog the nozzle. No "FUD" just simple facts. Casey performance currently advertises the highest amount of silicon dioxide in their products from a spray that I have found. It is only 16%.
Just to add to my above post, there are manufacturers who are switching to glass containers to try and push their products as true. A true ceramic should be around 80% silicon dioxide. That is the primary component in ceramic coatings. A true ceramic coating will not and cannot come out of a spray nozzle. It will clog the nozzle. No "FUD" just simple facts. Casey performance currently advertises the highest amount of silicon dioxide in their products from a spray that I have found. It is only 16%.
Your choice of wording was poor and led to a misunderstanding of what you were trying to say and rebuke of what you did not actually mean.
When you say Ceramics dont come in plastic bottles that was interpreted literally. As in the material the bottle is made of.
What you should have said is that true ceramic coatings dont come in SPRAY bottles.
Your choice of wording was poor and led to a misunderstanding of what you were trying to say and rebuke of what you did not actually mean.
When you say Ceramics dont come in plastic bottles that was interpreted literally. As in the material the bottle is made of.
What you should have said is that true ceramic coatings dont come in SPRAY bottles.
It was meant to be interpreted literally. True ceramic coatings do not and cannot come in plastic bottles. What comes in plastic bottles is basically detail spray with a very small amount of chemicals so they can label their products as Ceramic. I use one and it does what I need, but it needs reapplied frequently and using it hardly means my car is ceramic coated. I simply use it as a detail spray. Seems like the amount of companies putting this stuff out grows every day.
True ceramics do not come in a plastic bottle. They can't. I have tried multiple ceramic sprays and their effectiveness is almost completely gone after 3 garden hose washes. I now apply them over a graphene ceramic wax and get better results. Not saying they don't have a place, but you cannot apply these to your car and claim you have a ceramic coating.
I understand lol ....I am a detailer.
I was confused because it didn't sound like you were talking about ceramic SPRAYS. There is a complete deference between ceramic SPRAYS (usually big box brands) and Ceramic COATING.
To others who don't know: true ceramic coatings come is small glass bottles, about 3 inches tall, and comes out in little tiny drops. I have never seen it sold in big box stores.
I'm still learning. I've done a bunch of research the past 5 months. IMO true ceramics are best left to the professionals. Adams has an advanced ceramic coating with graphene that I will try later this year or next year. I've heard a lot of good things and have seen amazing results. At only 45% si02 it's not professional grade, but appears friendly enough for the weekend guy to work with. They claim a lifespan of 10 years. I don't drive my vette in rain and it's not much more than a weekend cruiser for me. I believe I might get 2 years out of the coating. There are several products in this range for the weekend guy. The longevity claims that all these companies make are getting ridiculous. If someone wants to go ceramic they need to first understand paint correction. The prep work is everything. I haven't quite worked up the courage to do the mild paint correction that is needed on my black vette. I've been practicing on my daily driven black silverado and have really learned along the way.
This guy gives an honest, accurate test on a car hood that is sectioned off and he has 24 products tested. He then washes every couple weeks and then rinses it so you can see how the products hold up. https://www.youtube.com/c/ScottHD
Personally, I use Griots Garage 3-in-1 ceramic wax SPRAY. I started using it before I discovered the channel below and as it turned out, it beat out ALL the other SPRAY/Wax products he tested. I like the spray because it goes on super easy and lasts a long time.
I also follow Ammo NYC detailing on Youtube and he has a product called Ammo Reflex Pro which is a true ceramic coating. I've watched a lot of reviews of it and haven't read anything negative about it. It was developed by Larry, the owner of Ammo, and is quite well known on the internet as a premier detailer.
This guy gives an honest, accurate test on a car hood that is sectioned off and he has 24 products tested. He then washes every couple weeks and then rinses it so you can see how the products hold up. https://www.youtube.com/c/ScottHD
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An interesting scenario for sure but a very small piece of the overall pie. Just because it does well on a hood sitting out back of his shop in TX doesn't mean it will accurately reflect the results should he strap that panel to a car and drive it around Buffalo, NY in the Winter.
Admirable ambition and interesting to see but no sure bet it will reflect the reality of road use. Too many folks take these YouTube 'torture tests' as gospel.
An interesting scenario for sure but a very small piece of the overall pie. Just because it does well on a hood sitting out back of his shop in TX doesn't mean it will accurately reflect the results should he strap that panel to a car and drive it around Buffalo, NY in the Winter.
Admirable ambition and interesting to see but no sure bet it will reflect the reality of road use. Too many folks take these YouTube 'torture tests' as gospel.
Caveat Emptor.
The hood sites outside year 'round and gets beat by the sun. You drive your Corvette in the winter in Buffalo, NY?? I think it's one of the better tests you'll find on Youtube, and with all things equal in the test, it shows which products do better than others. One of his tests is a 2.5 year test. I didn't say I was taking it as gospel, but it surely is a good test when you consider it's sitting outside in the hot Texas sun.
The hood sites outside year 'round and gets beat by the sun. You drive your Corvette in the winter in Buffalo, NY?? I think it's one of the better tests you'll find on Youtube, and with all things equal in the test, it shows which products do better than others. One of his tests is a 2.5 year test. I didn't say I was taking it as gospel, but it surely is a good test when you consider it's sitting outside in the hot Texas sun.
It's a test where one is welcome to interpret as they see fit for their particular situation. My situation requires more than standing up to sun; if I was looking for protection for a sunny day only car I'd skip ceramics altogether and bury it it the most luscious hybrid wax I could find.
I'm still learning. I've done a bunch of research the past 5 months. IMO true ceramics are best left to the professionals. Adams has an advanced ceramic coating with graphene that I will try later this year or next year. I've heard a lot of good things and have seen amazing results. At only 45% si02 it's not professional grade, but appears friendly enough for the weekend guy to work with. They claim a lifespan of 10 years. I don't drive my vette in rain and it's not much more than a weekend cruiser for me. I believe I might get 2 years out of the coating. There are several products in this range for the weekend guy. The longevity claims that all these companies make are getting ridiculous. If someone wants to go ceramic they need to first understand paint correction. The prep work is everything. I haven't quite worked up the courage to do the mild paint correction that is needed on my black vette. I've been practicing on my daily driven black silverado and have really learned along the way.
I am getting great results on my daily drivers with the Adams product below.. They now offer an "advanced" version I have not tried yet.
I'm probably going to try this. There are negative reviews about longevity, but I typically reapply after every wash anyway. Car is only out on the weekends and gets washed about once a month. The issue with Adam's products is they don't seem to have a repeatable manufacturing process. Numerous complaints from people who state the product quality they receive varies by container across the entire product line.
I'm probably going to try this. There are negative reviews about longevity, but I typically reapply after every wash anyway. Car is only out on the weekends and gets washed about once a month. The issue with Adam's products is they don't seem to have a repeatable manufacturing process. Numerous complaints from people who state the product quality they receive varies by container across the entire product line.
From my online research (reviews, feedback, YT tests), Adams does not last. The Amazon reviews are not good.
From my online research (reviews, feedback, YT tests), Adams does not last. The Amazon reviews are not good.
I agree with the longevity claims. They aren't an issue for me since my car is just a weekend toy. I have been impressed by what I've seen in person and am more concerned about the product consistency complaints than the longevity complaints.
