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Old Dec 26, 2022 | 08:04 PM
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So I am looking at installation of many harmonic balancers and noticed the Klowny video on YouTube. He used this “Friction Washer” at the end of the Harmonic balancer.


my question is if I need this washer at all for the install as I have noticed I cannot find the same washer besides that one I have posted.

thank you, and have a great day!
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Old Dec 26, 2022 | 09:41 PM
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its gets sandwiched in between the balancer and the lower timing chain gear. it probably stayed on the crankshaft when you took the balancer off.
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Those came out in approx 2010, wasn’t oem at least on early c6’s.

I’ve never used one, but I pin my cranks . Good insurance but i bet few cars have them
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Originally Posted by davidfarmer
Those came out in approx 2010, wasn’t oem at least on early c6’s.

I’ve never used one, but I pin my cranks . Good insurance but i bet few cars have them
So I’m good on not using it and replacing with just the ARP bolt, Summit Harmonic Bal., new belts, and new GM timing chain seal?
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Originally Posted by davidfarmer
Those came out in approx 2010, wasn’t oem at least on early c6’s.

I’ve never used one, but I pin my cranks . Good insurance but i bet few cars have them
No, the diamond washer was added during the first year of production (MY2005) to address loose balancers. Symptomatic customer cars got the washer retrofitted under a TSB.

My 2006 came with the washer from the factory. All the cars got them.
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So I’m good on not using it and replacing with just the ARP bolt, Summit Harmonic Bal., new belts, and new GM timing chain seal?
I would use the washer. There isn't anything in principle that makes it less necessary with an ARP bolt or a Summit balancer.

The only thing that would change would be keying/pinning the crank.

Note there's a new-style washer that comes without the rubber retainer. It just looks like a circular shim with a single keyway notch. Works the same way as the original.
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Interesting, looks like one more thing I need to buy for my project............
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The washer is only needed on OEM balancers. Aftermarket does not require it.
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