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Old Apr 23, 2023 | 04:10 PM
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I was planning on taking my Corvette out today for a drive and left it idling for about 10 minutes, when i came to drive it i noticed the headers were glowing red. I just recently installed Speed engineering headers and a Borla s type axle back. I have not had anything tuned yet. It was also running slightly rough almost going up and down in rpms and wanting to stall out. Any ideas?? Would a tune get rid of this problem?
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Hey Kevdog, . Driving it lean/rich is one thing, I wouldn’t let it idle without being tuned first. A tune will solve all the problems you just listed.
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new headers = a tune required 100% of the time
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Old Apr 23, 2023 | 06:41 PM
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Hey Kevdog, . Driving it lean/rich is one thing, I wouldn’t let it idle without being tuned first. A tune will solve all the problems you just listed.
Thanks for the replies, i was planning on driving it to the tuning shop 1 hr away but i’ll have to rent a trailer now.
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You’ll be ok driving it, just take it easy and drive “normal” I know tough to do in a vette.
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Originally Posted by KevdogC6
Thanks for the replies, i was planning on driving it to the tuning shop 1 hr away but i’ll have to rent a trailer now.
light throttle, keep it under 2800-3000 rpm, you can drive it to tuner. may ruin the finish on your headers tho depending on the finish type.
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Originally Posted by floorman279
light throttle, keep it under 2800-3000 rpm, you can drive it to tuner. may ruin the finish on your headers tho depending on the finish type.
That’s good to hear, i figured since it was glowing at idle it’ll probably be worse when i take it on an hour drive.
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Headers should not be glowing like that on an otherwise stock car at idle? Normally at idle the computer should be able to adjust fuel trims for the minimal requirements idle rpm require. What are your short term and long term fuel trims? The going up and down at idle indicate a vacuum leak with the Tps trying to stabilize air coming in.
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Originally Posted by baxsom
Headers should not be glowing like that on an otherwise stock car at idle? Normally at idle the computer should be able to adjust fuel trims for the minimal requirements idle rpm require. What are your short term and long term fuel trims? The going up and down at idle indicate a vacuum leak with the Tps trying to stabilize air coming in.
What would cause a vacuum leak to happen?
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glowing headers is a lean condition, you got a bad vac leak....
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Originally Posted by drewz06
glowing headers is a lean condition, you got a bad vac leak....
How would I go about diagnosing?
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Originally Posted by drewz06
glowing headers is a lean condition, you got a bad vac leak....
Glowing headers is a heavy spark retard condition, not really fueling related.
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brake booster line was disconnected, looked like this after about 3 minutes of idling....

you can use a can of brake cleaner to spray around your intake manifold etc to listen for an increase in engine speed

you probably knocked a vac line loose somewhere, just have to start chasing hoses in the engine bay

(notice the brake vac line in the lower right corner of the pic?

also i would strongly recommend against driving it anywhere if your headers are glowing. thats just some bad advice in my opinion.


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Originally Posted by drewz06
brake booster line was disconnected, looked like this after about 3 minutes of idling....

you can use a can of brake cleaner to spray around your intake manifold etc to listen for an increase in engine speed

you probably knocked a vac line loose somewhere, just have to start chasing hoses in the engine bay

(notice the brake vac line in the lower right corner of the pic?


So in that case the vacuum leak would have given you a high idle speed - the throttle plate would have been as closed as possible and still too much air > high idle. The only way the ECU had to try and drop the idle speed back to target was to reduce the torque, it tried to do that by retarding the spark as much as possible > extremely high exhaust gas temps. No cooling airflow as car isn't moving > cherry pipes
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Originally Posted by drewz06
also i would strongly recommend against driving it anywhere if your headers are glowing. Thats just some bad advice in my opinion.
this!
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