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Old Sep 8, 2025 | 05:21 PM
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I’ve been having this really annoying misfire on my 2008 base vette and it’s at 120k miles so I’ve just been going down the parts list I’ve doneSpark plugs

Spark plug wires

Coil packs

Clean throttle body

MAF sensor

Check for vacuum leaks

Upstream O2 sensors

Exhaust manifold gaskets

Cleaned grounds

Checked fuel pressure when misfire wasn’t noticeable was 55psi at idle but I don’t know what it is when misfiring because I’m usually driving. Sometimes turning off and on the car fixes misfire. Sometimes misfire appears after driving a while sometimes few seconds after start up. When misfiring fuel system is on open loop fault.Maybe cam position sensor? When misfire is very noticeable service traction control system warning comes up as well. Any help would be much appreciated.

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Have you checked for trouble codes that could lead to a particular cylinder? If the misfire is random, have you looked at live scanner data for MAF, MAP, Fuel Trims, etc.?
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I recommend as a DIY’er anything beyond plugs and wires you will have great difficulty diagnosing a misfire without the advanced equipment needed…you already fired the parts canon without much success…T/C light will always illuminate when you have a misfire.

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when misfiring this is the live data


Fuel System: OL-Fault


Fuel Trim (LTFT and STFT):

• STFT1: 0%

• LTFT1: ~-0.8%

• STFT2: 0%

• LTFT2: ~-0.8%



MAF (Mass Air Flow):

• Idle (598 RPM): ~7.97 g/s

• MAP: 38 kPa at idle

•Spark Advance: 12°

EQ Ratio: ~0.93–0.90

I took it to two mechanics one said maybe fuel pump going the other said clogged injectors not atomizing properly. Parts cannon gives me something to work on at least 😅






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Your MAP reading of 38kPa at idle seems about right. Does it hold steady at that value or does it fluctuate? A fluctuating MAP value would indicate a vacuum leak.
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Unfortunately you really can’t diagnose a misfire with live data…unless a shop uses a labscope they will only be guessing…I use a labscope to diagnose misfires so I don’t guess…below are some waveforms I use to see where the misfire is…fuel, spark, compression…if you show these waveforms to a repair shop or even a dealership and they don’t know what these are find another shop !!..as far as your EQ or Lamda you are a little on the rich side…did those 2 idiot mechanics do a fuel injector balance test to see if your injectors are clogged or check the fuel pump under load ??..it is cheaper spending an hour for diagnostic time than changing more unneeded parts…and BTW it’s not a cam sensor.




Relative compression test…in picture no compression #8 cylinder.
Relative compression test…in picture no compression #8 cylinder.
Secondary Ignition
Secondary Ignition
Coil pack current on left and fuel injector current on right.
Coil pack current on left and fuel injector current on right.
Fuel injector voltage
Fuel injector voltage

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Took it to dealership just for diag today I guess we’ll see what the culprit is soon hopefully. I’ll call and ask about the labscope. When misfire is not too noticeable computer shows 0 misfires at or above 2k rmp. When it is misfiring bad feels like the car is running on 4 cylinders and is gonna shake itself apart at any rpm.
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Originally Posted by Nico5554
Took it to dealership just for diag today I guess we’ll see what the culprit is soon hopefully. I’ll call and ask about the labscope. When misfire is not too noticeable computer shows 0 misfires at or above 2k rmp. When it is misfiring bad feels like the car is running on 4 cylinders and is gonna shake itself apart at any rpm.
A dealership will only replace parts and they probably don’t use a labscope but you can ask.
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Originally Posted by C5 Diag
A dealership will only replace parts and they probably don’t use a labscope but you can ask.
Yup, they only plug-in to the OBD-II and do what the results say to do, then move on to the next pick-up.
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Originally Posted by NORTY
Yup, they only plug-in to the OBD-II and do what the results say to do, then move on to the next pick-up.




Trouble codes are only a guide to what may be wrong…if it’s an oxygen sensor trouble code you just don’t replace the sensor…they're idiots !!



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