26HP from Headers
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Melting Slicks
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26HP from Headers
Well the numbers are in.
With the Vortex ram induction 349 to 353 RWHP
With Vortex Ram Induction & BPP Long Tube Step Headers with off road X-Pipe 369 to 374 RWHP
Wide Band A/F was at about 11.90
That is 21 RWHP gain or about 26 Flywheel HP.
By the way this is an auto car.
Our next test would be with street X-pipe.
One note our fuel trim #s at idle were +18 and at cruise +9 which shows we are running leaner.
Ernie
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With the Vortex ram induction 349 to 353 RWHP
With Vortex Ram Induction & BPP Long Tube Step Headers with off road X-Pipe 369 to 374 RWHP
Wide Band A/F was at about 11.90
That is 21 RWHP gain or about 26 Flywheel HP.
By the way this is an auto car.
Our next test would be with street X-pipe.
One note our fuel trim #s at idle were +18 and at cruise +9 which shows we are running leaner.
Ernie
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Melting Slicks
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Lets go over the numbers. 35 is flywheel HP gain
Rear Wheel is about 28 for the Vortex system by its self.
On top of that we picked up with the headers about 21 Rear wheel which is the same as about 26 Flywheel.
Ernie
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Rear Wheel is about 28 for the Vortex system by its self.
On top of that we picked up with the headers about 21 Rear wheel which is the same as about 26 Flywheel.
Ernie
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so you are saying that with the system you get between 349 and 353 hp not stock 349 and with thte system 353? i was just gewtting ready to order this system and then saw this and thougth i would wait until someone else came out with something since it is over 500.00 and only good for 4 hp! so it is still good for around 30 hp right?
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With the Vortex ram induction 349 to 353 RWHP
I am confused as well. My reading of the above is 349 without the vortex; with the vortex 353....for a 4hp difference. I assume that I am incorrect? Please clarify. I would seriously consider purchasing that as well.
I am confused as well. My reading of the above is 349 without the vortex; with the vortex 353....for a 4hp difference. I assume that I am incorrect? Please clarify. I would seriously consider purchasing that as well.
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Melting Slicks
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349 to 353 was with the Vortex. 353 was the first pull and 349 the last when the engine was hotter, all 3 runs with the Vortex. 320 was without the Vortex
I should have stated that with the Vortex installed was between 349 to 353. Without the Vortex HP was 320.
Ernie
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I should have stated that with the Vortex installed was between 349 to 353. Without the Vortex HP was 320.
Ernie
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Originally Posted by bpproducts
349 to 353 was with the Vortex. 353 was the first pull and 349 the last when the engine was hotter, all 3 runs with the Vortex. 320 was without the Vortex
I should have stated that with the Vortex installed was between 349 to 353. Without the Vortex HP was 320.
Ernie
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I should have stated that with the Vortex installed was between 349 to 353. Without the Vortex HP was 320.
Ernie
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Melting Slicks
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As you know they did design a whole new box. It could be in the design or the filters themselves.
Ernie
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Originally Posted by bpproducts
349 to 353 was with the Vortex. 353 was the first pull and 349 the last when the engine was hotter, all 3 runs with the Vortex. 320 was without the Vortex
I should have stated that with the Vortex installed was between 349 to 353. Without the Vortex HP was 320.
Ernie
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I should have stated that with the Vortex installed was between 349 to 353. Without the Vortex HP was 320.
Ernie
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So let me get this straight for myself and the others.....You picked up 29 to 33 rwhp by putting JUST an intake mod on the C6?! You got this 29 to 33rwhp over the DUAL ELEMENT, OPEN DESIGN induction of the BRAND NEW C6(just incase we aren't talking about the same make/model as I believe we are)??
Todd
PTP, please.......
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Melting Slicks
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That is what we got out of an auto C6. Either its a bad factory design or the filters to restrictive.
We plan on hitting the track this week but everytime we do we get a hurricane to mess things up.
Ernie
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We plan on hitting the track this week but everytime we do we get a hurricane to mess things up.
Ernie
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St. Jude Donor '03-'04
Originally Posted by bpproducts
320 was without the Vortex
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It lost 80 hp to the wheels? Something isn't right IMO............
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Originally Posted by Buckmaster
A stock C6 made 320 rwhp? It lost 80 hp to the wheels? Something isn't right IMO............
It lost 80 hp to the wheels? Something isn't right IMO............
Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by Buckmaster
A stock C6 made 320 rwhp? It lost 80 hp to the wheels? Something isn't right IMO............
It lost 80 hp to the wheels? Something isn't right IMO............
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Originally Posted by Adam Bruce
No, this is an Automatic C6, not a manual. Autos allways dyno lower due to higher loss.
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Adam like you said the autos always read less. It seams that everyone thinks the sticks dyno the same as the autos. Most of the C6s that you see out there that have been dynoed have been the sticks so when an auto comes up they think the numbers are way off. Lets put it this way if the autos had the same RWHP they would be quicker then the sticks down the 1/4 mile.
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Well, forum supporter or not I will say it. Your results are very unlikely and very suspect. ALL THE C6 DYNOS on this board show well into the range you got with your Vortex product, but BONE STOCK. Getting low numbers on a dyno is extremely easy and makes gains unrealistic and is poor advertising. Yes, there are auto dyno's posted for the C6 and yours is LOW.
Todd
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