When I spoke to them on the phone I was told they were trying to figure out which cars are involved. It may be handled as an inspect and repair as needed type of deal. The impression I got was that they dont know which cars might need recalls. This from the phone number on the recall notice posted above. How accurate the information one recieves from them may be is something I dont even have a guess at. We will see.

 

So true so very true

 

Pure semantics. Anyone can look up a recall at NHTSA. I've seen it plenty of times. Now here's a fact: NO C6 cars have been recalled for the brake overheating issue. NONE. That's a fact.

If you want to talk facts, that's exactly what I'm interested in. People keep posting about the "C6 Recall" as if C6's have been recalled. They have not been recalled at this time. I just want to distinguish between a recall that has been identified and an actual recall campaign that is underway. To me, a recall is not final and not a "real recall" until the actual vehicles have been recalled.

It is my understanding that recalls are entered into the system whenever there is an issue that potentially affects multiple vehicles. Applicability is then determined and the true number of vehicles affected is known. I believe it is even possible for a recall to be "recalled" or deleted from the system before any actual recall notices go out if it is later determined that the issue doesn't have general applicability, i.e. if a mistake was made in that this is not a general problem. I've even seen them pull recalls mid stream when a certain number of vehicles were recalled and none were found to have the problem (happened to me on a previous vehicle).

In the end, we may or may not ever see this as a real recall where our cars are recalled. Because a recall is entered into a database somewhere doesn't mean that it is (or will ever be) an active campaign until applicability is determined. It's not possible right now (without inside information which we do not have here) to predict whether vehicles will be part of this recall campaign or not. I suspect so, but I wouldn't be surprised if no one ever got this recall either. Just don't assume that all our cars have been recalled for brake line fixes... yet.

Mike

 

It's a RECALL because the United States Government says it's a RECALL. They have the final say in the matter, not you. If you have a problem with that, then become a congressman and change the FederaL LAW that gives the Government the power to call it a RECALL.

 

Dealers were notified last week in an administrative document by GM sent to the dealers that there WILL be a recall

 

Call it what you like and chalk it up to who you wish. The fact still remains that no vehicles have yet been recalled. It appears that they may be close to issuing the recall, but as of yet it has not been done. In addition, it appears that less than 900 early production Vette's are involved in the recall and that the fix procedure involves nothing more than insuring the proper positioning of a single brake line clip, bending of lines where necessary, and cutting off one machining tab from the differential housing. Sounds like a minor procedure that should take less than 30 minutes and not involve any major work.

If you look at
the latest documentation, you'll see some interesting facts. The parts I find interesting are these points:

On August 12, 2004 a Product Investigations Investigator was assigned to investigate reports of brake line leaks in 2004 Cadillac XLR model vehicles. Inspection of a random sample of Cadillac XLR and Corvette vehicles revealed that the brake line clip near the left exhaust manifold was out of position or unseated on 50% of the inspected vehicles. Based on the results of a GM Service Operations inspection of 109 XLR vehicles, 93% of XLR vehicles are projected to have at least one rear brake line either contacting the rear exhaust or with less than the design specification of 40mm clearance to the rear exhaust. In a random sample of 2004 Cadillac XLR and 2005 Chevrolet Corvette vehicles, most of the vehicles inspected had wear or witness marks on the right rear brake line indicating contact with the differential housing.

GM is aware of six Cadillac XLR vehicles that had brake line contact and wear-through at the left rear exhaust pipe. There was one report of a 2005 Corvette in the GM Captured Test Fleet with brake line contact and wear-through at the left engine exhaust manifold.

<skip paragraph about plant inspection>

Dealers are to: (1) Left Engine Exhaust Manifold - Inspect the clip for proper alignment and placement on the body-mounted stud. If incorrect, reposition the clip on the brake lines and reinstall the clip on the studl (2) Left Exhaust Pipe - Verify that both rear brake lines have 40mm of clearance to the exhaust pipe. Reposition lines by bending as necessary; (3) Rear Differential Housing - Remove the machining tab from the rear differential housing. Also, dealers are to inspect brake lines for wear in these related areas and repair or replace if there is any sign of wear-through on the nylon overcoating.

There is then a table that is very difficult to read (the total number of Vettes involved is the worst to read) but here are my guesses at what the numbers say:

3861 2004 Cadillac XLR's manufactured from 01/2003 through 06/2004 are affected.

499 2005 Cadillac XLR's manufactured from 04/2004 through 08/2004 are affected.

865 2005 Corvettes manufactured from 04/2004 through 08/2004 are affected.

Again, I extrapolated the 865 from the other numbers as the number involved in the Corvette row is smudged but we know the total is 5,225. I'm also not sure if the "to" date on the Vette is 08/2004 or 06/2004 but since my VIN is 339 and mine was manufactured in 06/2004, I believe they could have made 865 by August... not June.

Mike

 

The new C6 Z06 is the real deal, IMO. This is what the C6 should have been in the beginning, not a revamped C5.

 

Yep

 

If the C6 were just a revamped C5, there wouldn't be so many C5 owners bashing it.

 

I didn't realize that giving an opinion was bashing. From now on, I will follow in lock-step with you.

 

I had reason to call GM Customer "Relations" yesterday and while talking with them asked if there were any recalls for my C6, VIN# 338, the answer was NO. - FWIW

 

There's a difference between bashing and expressing negative opinions. The ones that give nothing but negative opinions are bashing. If you and I were looking at your car, in person, and every sentence I uttered expressed my dissatisfaction with your car, that would be bashing.

It's also in the way you say it. Again, if I tell you that your car is fugly and the design is stupid-looking, I probably wouldn't be welcome to make too many more comments about your car.

Why is it necessary for SOME to come to the C6 section and make NOTHING BUT derogatory comments about the C6?