Kooks headers = 25 RWHP
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Kooks headers = 25 RWHP
The Vette Doctors installed Kooks headers (w/ high flow cats and x-pipe) along with Corsa Sport exhaust on my otherwise stock automatic Z51 with 900 miles on it. Before 328.2 RWHP ... After 353.2 RWHP ... a gain of exactly 25 RWHP without any tuning. The C6 is definitely suffering from the Big Brother party pooper known as "Torque Management". The dyno graph was like a roller coaster as the computer pulled timing as the car was trying to make power, particularly midrange 4000-5000 RPM. The C6 should respond very well once tuning is available.
Also replaced the stock Z51 brake pads with ceramic pads. No more squeaky brakes!
Also replaced the stock Z51 brake pads with ceramic pads. No more squeaky brakes!
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Originally Posted by c5grandsport
The Vette Doctors installed Kooks headers (w/ high flow cats and x-pipe) along with Corsa Sport exhaust on my otherwise stock automatic Z51 with 900 miles on it. Before 328.2 RWHP ... After 353.2 RWHP ... a gain of exactly 25 RWHP without any tuning. The C6 is definitely suffering from the Big Brother party pooper known as "Torque Management". The dyno graph was like a roller coaster as the computer pulled timing as the car was trying to make power, particularly midrange 4000-5000 RPM. The C6 should respond very well once tuning is available.
Also replaced the stock Z51 brake pads with ceramic pads. No more squeaky brakes!
Also replaced the stock Z51 brake pads with ceramic pads. No more squeaky brakes!
Or you got 25 with all of that?
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Originally Posted by PhoenixINX
So your 328 was with the high-flows... and the x-pipe?
Or you got 25 with all of that?
Or you got 25 with all of that?
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make sure you get them Ceramic Coated!!!
most companies don't really ceramic coat them. when they say they are coated they dip plate the outside with cheap metal!
this doesnt do anything! except peel after a yr! also alot dont even coat inside and out!
get the real ceramic coating!
I will ceramic coat any headers inside and out for $188.
this includes all preping, 3 yr warranty, and a limited lifetime rust warranty. !!!!!!!
this is the best price/guarentee out there!
please email me and let me know!
your friend
Sean Blanton
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congrats on the LTs!
LS2 for life!
most companies don't really ceramic coat them. when they say they are coated they dip plate the outside with cheap metal!
this doesnt do anything! except peel after a yr! also alot dont even coat inside and out!
get the real ceramic coating!
I will ceramic coat any headers inside and out for $188.
this includes all preping, 3 yr warranty, and a limited lifetime rust warranty. !!!!!!!
this is the best price/guarentee out there!
please email me and let me know!
your friend
Sean Blanton
slimshaby@mindspring.com
congrats on the LTs!
LS2 for life!
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From: Phoenix AZ
Originally Posted by jabbott
Why would he get the ceramic coated when they are stainless?
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the ceramic coating will lower underhood temps and thus give you hp!
also ceramic coated headers will out last the non coated!
regular headers will get a good 3-5 yrs before warpage or coat peeling.
ceramic coated headers will go the lifetime of your car or more!
also many people argue about what they think it does, but its test proven and race proven that it works!
so I am not going to argue but why do you think so many manufacturers try and imitate it?
your friend
Sean
slimshaby@mindspring.com
also ceramic coated headers will out last the non coated!
regular headers will get a good 3-5 yrs before warpage or coat peeling.
ceramic coated headers will go the lifetime of your car or more!
also many people argue about what they think it does, but its test proven and race proven that it works!
so I am not going to argue but why do you think so many manufacturers try and imitate it?
your friend
Sean
slimshaby@mindspring.com
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From: Biggest Valley in the World, CA
Originally Posted by c5grandsport
Before 328.2 RWHP ... After 353.2 RWHP
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From: Livingston Texas
Originally Posted by Lee6
only 328 bone stock? that sounds atypically low to me....i thought that most C6s were into the 340 range.....
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From: Rockville Centre NY
Originally Posted by Brett Hunter
It is an auto. The numbers seem to be very close to what others with the A4 have posted.
P.S. I wasn't counting on this thread turning into an advertisement for ceramic coating, just wanted to report real world gain on headers.
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From: Rockville Centre NY
Originally Posted by Yogivette
What kind of numbers would you expect with the kooks and x pipe with highflos but the stock cat back, if that is even possible.
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Originally Posted by SlowAzzVette
so you basicaly spent about 3k to get 25 hp, it doesn't sound like a good deal to me at all... sorry 
Listen, unlike the C5, which responded to simple, cost effective mods like intake and cat back exhaust, the C6 requires more expensive mods to show any real gains. Bottom line is the engineers left much less on the table with the C6 intake/exhaust design than with the C5. If you like yours the way it is, that's great, but some of us want a little more and are willing to pay the admittedly steep price.
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Originally Posted by SlowAzzVette
so you basicaly spent about 3k to get 25 hp, it doesn't sound like a good deal to me at all... sorry
Headers still help, but not so much, because we can't yet tune the timing and fuel maps in the PCM to take advantage of them. We're all waiting for the software to tune these engines. That's when we can start to pull the full potential from the LS2.
I went through the same cycle with the 350Z. Until Technosquare cracked the computer and gave us a way to tune, mods mostly either didn't make any power, or actually cost some power. Once access to the timing and fuel maps was available, though, we started seeing some significant power gains.
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Originally Posted by c5grandsport
Well it was less than 3K, and it was worth it to me because I can FEEL the difference across the entire RPM range, which makes driving the car alot more fun. Also now SOUNDS like a vette should. Of course, once tuning is available, there will be more ponies unleashed.
Listen, unlike the C5, which responded to simple, cost effective mods like intake and cat back exhaust, the C6 requires more expensive mods to show any real gains. Bottom line is the engineers left much less on the table with the C6 intake/exhaust design than with the C5. If you like yours the way it is, that's great, but some of us want a little more and are willing to pay the admittedly steep price.
Listen, unlike the C5, which responded to simple, cost effective mods like intake and cat back exhaust, the C6 requires more expensive mods to show any real gains. Bottom line is the engineers left much less on the table with the C6 intake/exhaust design than with the C5. If you like yours the way it is, that's great, but some of us want a little more and are willing to pay the admittedly steep price.
With the new ZO6 expected to be in the F-ing expesive ($75,000.00 Chevy, LOL) range, 3K for 25HP sounds like a bargin with more to come when the code is cracked.
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Originally Posted by KRAYZ308
With the new ZO6 expected to be in the F-ing expesive ($75,000.00 Chevy, LOL) range, 3K for 25HP sounds like a bargin with more to come when the code is cracked.
