Do Headders Void Your Warentee?
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Originally Posted by archtop
I had Kooks with cats and corsa sports installed tuesday by my local dealership.They told me the only thing they wouldn't cover was the new exhaust.
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If there is a fatal failure with the engine and you have aftermarket headers on it, I am betting a good sum of money that GM will not honor the warranty without a good legal fight.
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Originally Posted by WhiteDiamond
If there is a fatal failure with the engine and you have aftermarket headers on it, I am betting a good sum of money that GM will not honor the warranty without a good legal fight.
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Did you have the dealer install them ?
Also are there any problem installing them ( No check engine lights)far as daily driveabilty and emissions ( passing inspection)
And what will i gain from this setup?
Will tuneing the motor help with once it is available to do so
Also are there any problem installing them ( No check engine lights)far as daily driveabilty and emissions ( passing inspection)
And what will i gain from this setup?
Will tuneing the motor help with once it is available to do so
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Originally Posted by burtonbl103
Did you have the dealer install them ?
Also are there any problem installing them ( No check engine lights)far as daily driveabilty and emissions ( passing inspection)
And what will i gain from this setup?
Will tuneing the motor help with once it is available to do so
Also are there any problem installing them ( No check engine lights)far as daily driveabilty and emissions ( passing inspection)
And what will i gain from this setup?
Will tuneing the motor help with once it is available to do so
No problems,check engine or anything else
No emissions inspection where I live so don't have an answer for that one
Haven't had it dyno tested but its much better on the top end
When tuning is available it will definitely help,as I said the car just runs smoother.One more thing it sounds so coollllllllllllllllllllllllllllll !
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Is it alot louder ? is it too loud
I had the corsa indys on my c5 with the x pipe
I amlooking at kooks with the corsa sport setup
TBYRNE is withing driving distance from my house and looking to do in the spring
I had the corsa indys on my c5 with the x pipe
I amlooking at kooks with the corsa sport setup
TBYRNE is withing driving distance from my house and looking to do in the spring
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Originally Posted by archtop
I had Kooks with cats and corsa sports installed tuesday by my local dealership.They told me the only thing they wouldn't cover was the new exhaust.
I wish all experiences could be like that.
To answer the original question - it depends highly on the dealer and the warranty work that needs to be done.
By law it cannot void your warranty; however, if the problem you have can be related to the headers, the dealer can refuse. The law states that the problem must be related to (or caused by) the aftermarket part to not be covered, but the delear can certainly refuse and then it becomes a legal issue, even if you are ultimately correct.
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Originally Posted by yellow01
Dude - buy that dealer a beer. Hell buy the whole service department beers and steaks. That's awesome!
I wish all experiences could be like that.
To answer the original question - it depends highly on the dealer and the warranty work that needs to be done.
By law it cannot void your warranty; however, if the problem you have can be related to the headers, the dealer can refuse. The law states that the problem must be related to (or caused by) the aftermarket part to not be covered, but the delear can certainly refuse and then it becomes a legal issue, even if you are ultimately correct.
I wish all experiences could be like that.
To answer the original question - it depends highly on the dealer and the warranty work that needs to be done.
By law it cannot void your warranty; however, if the problem you have can be related to the headers, the dealer can refuse. The law states that the problem must be related to (or caused by) the aftermarket part to not be covered, but the delear can certainly refuse and then it becomes a legal issue, even if you are ultimately correct.
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Originally Posted by burtonbl103
Is it alot louder ? is it too loud
I had the corsa indys on my c5 with the x pipe
I amlooking at kooks with the corsa sport setup
TBYRNE is withing driving distance from my house and looking to do in the spring
I had the corsa indys on my c5 with the x pipe
I amlooking at kooks with the corsa sport setup
TBYRNE is withing driving distance from my house and looking to do in the spring
, it kicks *** when you want it to ( think modena ) and is very livable ( slightly louder than stock) with easy acceleration.Quieter,yes quieter than stock when cruising on the highway 50-80.Now it sounds like it has 400 hp. 
Kooks: headers, cats and x-pipe,corsa sport with 4" tips.
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Originally Posted by archtop
I did ask my dealer just that question and he said since they're doing the warrantee work(good ole boy network) not to worry.Its up to the dealer ,thats why I had them installed there.A major engine failure could not be blamed on headers all they do is help the car breathe easier,the car runs smoother than before.
I remember a guy I met at the track in a 94 formula one year. Had a supercharger on it from a dealer install. They told him the same thing.
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Originally Posted by WhiteDiamond
First off, congrats, you have a rare dealership. Second, too bad, you don't mention you got it in writing......When the zone rep shows up(typically a zone rep has to approve all major warranty repairs) and checks out your fatal failure and sees the headers, you are paying. GM doesn't play there, they just say warranty void and slip you a very high bill for the inspection/tear down to that point. Been there, done that, have buddies been there and done that.
I remember a guy I met at the track in a 94 formula one year. Had a supercharger on it from a dealer install. They told him the same thing.
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I remember a guy I met at the track in a 94 formula one year. Had a supercharger on it from a dealer install. They told him the same thing.
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Originally Posted by WhiteDiamond
If there is a fatal failure with the engine and you have aftermarket headers on it, I am betting a good sum of money that GM will not honor the warranty without a good legal fight.
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The Magnuson Moss Warranty Act requires a dealer to fix a car under warranty unless the dealer can prove that a modification is what caused the problem.
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Originally Posted by Scissors
The Magnuson Moss Warranty Act requires a dealer to fix a car under warranty unless the dealer can prove that a modification is what caused the problem.
Check this linkwww.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm
Last edited by archtop; Jan 16, 2005 at 10:25 AM. Reason: incorrect link post
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Originally Posted by archtop
Dude relax , it kicks *** when you want it to ( think modena ) and is very livable ( slightly louder than stock) with easy acceleration.Quieter,yes quieter than stock when cruising on the highway 50-80.Now it sounds like it has 400 hp.
Kooks: headers, cats and x-pipe,corsa sport with 4" tips.
, it kicks *** when you want it to ( think modena ) and is very livable ( slightly louder than stock) with easy acceleration.Quieter,yes quieter than stock when cruising on the highway 50-80.Now it sounds like it has 400 hp. Kooks: headers, cats and x-pipe,corsa sport with 4" tips.
That is the exact setup i want to do
thanks
Do you have any pics of the setup
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hmmm...I was worried about adding headers too...but now I see a new light at the end of the tunnel...but before I do anything Ill make sure the service dept at my local dealer here in Newton , MA will do the install.... If they give me the green light then....Kooks here we come!
If they give me the green light then....Kooks here we come!
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Originally Posted by Scissors
The Magnuson Moss Warranty Act requires a dealer to fix a car under warranty unless the dealer can prove that a modification is what caused the problem.
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Originally Posted by WhiteDiamond
What most of you forget to realize about this act is that GM can specifically say the failure was caused by any aftermarket addition to the motor(powertrain engineered the package to these exact specs). This is enough for the MMW Act you mention. What you don't see is that it then BECOMES YOUR responsibility to PROVE the warranty should not be voided due to the modification. GM will play this card in most cases and force you to pay the money through attorneys or court to prove otherwise. They do the same thing with lemon law issues in most cases, been there and done that one as well.
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