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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 02:09 PM
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Does the traction control on our z06's reduce the power going to the wheels once it senses traction is being lost? Is their an explanation anywhere that goes through the process?

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Old Apr 28, 2010 | 09:17 PM
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Traction Control System (TCS)
Your vehicle has a traction control system called
TCS that limits wheel spin. This is especially useful
in slippery road conditions. The system operates
only if it senses that the rear wheels are spinning
too much or are beginning to lose traction.
When this happens, the system works the rear
brakes and reduces engine power (by closing the
throttle and managing engine spark) to limit
wheel spin.
The TRACTION SYSTEM ACTIVE message
displays on the Driver Information Center (DIC)
when the TCS system is limiting wheel spin. See
DIC Warnings and Messages on page 212.
You may feel or hear the system working, but this
is normal.
If your vehicle is in cruise control when the TCS
system begins to limit wheel spin, the cruise
control will automatically disengage. When road
conditions allow you to safely use it again,
you may re-engage the cruise control. See Turn
Signal/Multifunction Lever on page 158.


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Originally Posted by Geared
Does the traction control on our z06's reduce the power going to the wheels once it senses traction is being lost? Is their an explanation anywhere that goes through the process?

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What it does exactly is that once it detects wheel spin by comparing the speed of the rear wheels with that of the front ones (gathered by looking at the ABS sensors in each wheel), it will physically close the throttle plate in your car, essentially doing what you would do if you wanted the tires to stop spinning: back off the gas.
It also has the authority to remove ignition timing; that is a much faster acting strategy to reduce power. A combination of both is used depending on how much wheelspin there is and how long it is taking for the tires to re-hook.
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What it does exactly is that once it detects wheel spin by comparing the speed of the rear wheels with that of the front ones (gathered by looking at the ABS sensors in each wheel), it will physically close the throttle plate in your car, essentially doing what you would do if you wanted the tires to stop spinning: back off the gas.
It also has the authority to remove ignition timing; that is a much faster acting strategy to reduce power. A combination of both is used depending on how much wheelspin there is and how long it is taking for the tires to re-hook.
It will also apply one or both rear brakes.

Here is the description of operation from the 2008 Service Manual:
Traction Control System (TCS) (NW9)

When drive wheel slip is noted while the brake is not applied, the EBCM will enter traction control mode.
First, the EBCM requests the PCM to reduce the amount of torque to the drive wheels via the requested torque signal circuit. The PCM reduces torque to the drive wheels by retarding spark timing and turning off fuel injectors. The PCM reports the amount torque delivered to the drive wheels via the delivered torque signal circuit.

If the engine torque reduction does not eliminate drive wheel slip, the EBCM will actively apply the drive wheel brakes. During traction control braking, hydraulic pressure in each drive wheel circuit is controlled to prevent the drive wheels from slipping. The master cylinder isolation valve closes in order to isolate the master cylinder from the rest of the hydraulic system. The prime valve then opens in order to allow the pump to accumulate brake fluid in order to build hydraulic pressure for braking. The drive wheel inlet and outlet solenoid valves then open and close in order to perform the following functions:
  • Pressure hold
  • Pressure increase
  • Pressure decrease

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ty for the posts above....

And if it was malfunctioning, or not working, or the fuses were blown.....wouldnt the ecu throw a code?
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Originally Posted by Geared
ty for the posts above....

And if it was malfunctioning, or not working, or the fuses were blown.....wouldnt the ecu throw a code?
I don't know about throwing a code but I do know:
- The traction control will let the rear tires spin much more than you might think. If you are in a really tight turn and you don't react quickly you can spin out if you add too much throttle.
- When the traction control engages it can feel like wheel hop.

I personally don't like the way it works. For aggressive driving I just turn it off, but it does require a different mind set.
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I drive pretty aggressively and cannot stand traction control I have it permanently turned off, unless it rains. Is this a bad thing in any way?
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I drive pretty aggressively and cannot stand traction control I have it permanently turned off, unless it rains. Is this a bad thing in any way?
It doesn't do much IMHO. AH on the other hand can save your butt.
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Originally Posted by goatts
It doesn't do much IMHO. AH on the other hand can save your butt.
cant you just take your foot off the gas?
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what about competitive mode what does it do exactly ?
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Garrett SNA
cant you just take your foot off the gas?
True. But the car's computer can react much faster than you could, especially if you're busy talking on the phone, messing with the stereo, or checking out that hot blonde in the car next to you. If you're paying attention to your driving however, then you really don't need it. I prefer to use competitive mode unless it's raining.

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what about competitive mode what does it do exactly ?
Competitive mode turns OFF traction control but keeps active handling turned ON.
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Old Apr 29, 2010 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by vant
True. But the car's computer can react much faster than you could, especially if you're busy talking on the phone, messing with the stereo, or checking out that hot blonde in the car next to you. If you're paying attention to your driving however, then you really don't need it. I prefer to use competitive mode unless it's raining.



Competitive mode turns OFF traction control but keeps active handling turned ON.
What does active handling do ?

Also another question why do ppl put it in 3rd gear when they get out of the car would it slide ? with only hand brake on ? I would do that on a uphill or down hill but in parking lot it dosent make sense to me please explain

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Originally Posted by vant
True. But the car's computer can react much faster than you could, especially if you're busy talking on the phone, messing with the stereo, or checking out that hot blonde in the car next to you. If you're paying attention to your driving however, then you really don't need it. I prefer to use competitive mode unless it's raining.



Competitive mode turns OFF traction control but keeps active handling turned ON.
haha very true. Those blonde do distract me...
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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 08:25 AM
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In other words..... Traction control n active handling keep the divider n your car from meeting each other!!

if you really don't care for electronic gizmos.... Then get some 18x12 wheels in the rear n get 345-35-18 MT ET streets n put an end to all traction issues!! Mine goes like a 4wd Evo.... Zero traction issues even from a 5mph roll!!
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In addition to the numerous and descriptive posts herein this thread…

The short: It works to maximize road grip when "sensing" slip conditions.

The long: Click here.
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Originally Posted by vant
True. But the car's computer can react much faster than you could, especially if you're busy talking on the phone, messing with the stereo, or checking out that hot blonde in the car next to you. If you're paying attention to your driving however, then you really don't need it. I prefer to use competitive mode unless it's raining.

Competitive mode turns OFF traction control but keeps active handling turned ON.
Actually AH operates in a reduced capacity in comp mode. Best to leave all nannies on for street. There is no reason whatsoever to turn them off. For some reason it's very difficult to convince some folks of this.
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Originally Posted by Nasser666
What does active handling do ?

Also another question why do ppl put it in 3rd gear when they get out of the car would it slide ? with only hand brake on ? I would do that on a uphill or down hill but in parking lot it dosent make sense to me please explain
AH can save your butt during emergency avoidance maneuvers.

I use the handbrake with tranny in reverse.
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