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Bruno. just an FYI, we provide a free start up tune file with the purchase of the kit.
That said, with the rest posted I value your opinion and glad your happy with your purchase, but at the end of the day you simply cannot argue the fact that ECS and A&A offer more physical value in materials given. That is physically indisputable. Now do I have bias towards our system from the Tq given? Yes, but I'm wiling to bet Andy would be biased towards his system too.
Happy holidays guys!
That said, with the rest posted I value your opinion and glad your happy with your purchase, but at the end of the day you simply cannot argue the fact that ECS and A&A offer more physical value in materials given. That is physically indisputable. Now do I have bias towards our system from the Tq given? Yes, but I'm wiling to bet Andy would be biased towards his system too.
Happy holidays guys!
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I went with A&A for the better spring loaded idler pulley and the intercooler design that keeps it out of the way of the radiator and provides and air scoop to pull air through it. I would recommend A&A because their customer service and dedication to making sure my kti made maximum horsepower. Long story there but they worked with me at their own cost to help fix an issue that had nothing to do with them and was more than helpful the whole time. Cant say enough good things about that company. BTW I'm making 696 HP with their kit and methanol running the 3.46" pulley I believe. I ended up doing all of the tuning myself ( no competent shop in my area) and they provided essential support in that area to.
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I went with A&A for the better spring loaded idler pulley and the intercooler design that keeps it out of the way of the radiator and provides and air scoop to pull air through it. I would recommend A&A because their customer service and dedication to making sure my kti made maximum horsepower. Long story there but they worked with me at their own cost to help fix an issue that had nothing to do with them and was more than helpful the whole time. Cant say enough good things about that company. BTW I'm making 696 HP with their kit and methanol running the 3.46" pulley I believe. I ended up doing all of the tuning myself ( no competent shop in my area) and they provided essential support in that area to.
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I went with A&A for the better spring loaded idler pulley and the intercooler design that keeps it out of the way of the radiator and provides and air scoop to pull air through it. I would recommend A&A because their customer service and dedication to making sure my kti made maximum horsepower. Long story there but they worked with me at their own cost to help fix an issue that had nothing to do with them and was more than helpful the whole time. Cant say enough good things about that company. BTW I'm making 696 HP with their kit and methanol running the 3.46" pulley I believe. I ended up doing all of the tuning myself ( no competent shop in my area) and they provided essential support in that area to.
Andy and guys are one great group of people. Robert
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At the same time though, now I am kind of stuck with the S-Trim blower after reaching its max output, which for me was a downside of the kit I got. Since I bought a used kit, I didn't get the option to upgrade the blower right off the bat, and I was told it would be around $2k to upgrade to a T-Trim now
. The T-Trim is basically the same as the Novi 1500, which is standard with ECS kits.Ant
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Lol I also felt like it wasn't a good idea to block the radiator on a car that already had overheating issues when pushed hard. Had ECS offered their kit with an IW pulley as standard equipment as well as a horizontal IC option, I would have went with their kit. I preferred those few things that A&A's kit had standard.
At the same time though, now I am kind of stuck with the S-Trim blower after reaching its max output, which for me was a downside of the kit I got. Since I bought a used kit, I didn't get the option to upgrade the blower right off the bat, and I was told it would be around $2k to upgrade to a T-Trim now. The T-Trim is basically the same as the Novi 1500, which is standard with ECS kits.
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At the same time though, now I am kind of stuck with the S-Trim blower after reaching its max output, which for me was a downside of the kit I got. Since I bought a used kit, I didn't get the option to upgrade the blower right off the bat, and I was told it would be around $2k to upgrade to a T-Trim now
. The T-Trim is basically the same as the Novi 1500, which is standard with ECS kits.Ant
Next plan is drop in forged pistons/small blower cam/Pulley and tune
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To be fair, I have read zero reports of overheating issues with either ECS or A&A kit, and if there are IAT temperature benefits with the air scoop, I doubt it's going to be a night-and-day difference. Both kits are superb and will certainly "get the job done."
That being said, I did go with an A&A kit because of one reason: the price was a bit better at the time. The intercooler design and the proper replacement harmonic balancer I just consider 'icing on the cake.'
I did go with the free Ti upgrade and a smaller pulley (3.6") because I knew that with my high altitude, I'd have to run about 3psi more boost in order to get the same power output as the kit would do at sea level. I could still pulley down to a 3.47 as I can spin the blower faster, but, will I really benefit from more power?
At sea level my car would do around 700rwhp, like many of the 3-mod cars on here. My altitude cuts that 700rwhp down to about 550rwhp, but I still spin all the way through first and second, and the rear end will kick out at 70mph in third if the highway roads are under 70 degrees. At sea level, where that full 700rwhp would be unlocked? Must take some very judicious throttle control.
That being said, I did go with an A&A kit because of one reason: the price was a bit better at the time. The intercooler design and the proper replacement harmonic balancer I just consider 'icing on the cake.'
I did go with the free Ti upgrade and a smaller pulley (3.6") because I knew that with my high altitude, I'd have to run about 3psi more boost in order to get the same power output as the kit would do at sea level. I could still pulley down to a 3.47 as I can spin the blower faster, but, will I really benefit from more power?
At sea level my car would do around 700rwhp, like many of the 3-mod cars on here. My altitude cuts that 700rwhp down to about 550rwhp, but I still spin all the way through first and second, and the rear end will kick out at 70mph in third if the highway roads are under 70 degrees. At sea level, where that full 700rwhp would be unlocked? Must take some very judicious throttle control.
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Lol I also felt like it wasn't a good idea to block the radiator on a car that already had overheating issues when pushed hard. Had ECS offered their kit with an IW pulley as standard equipment as well as a horizontal IC option, I would have went with their kit. I preferred those few things that A&A's kit had standard.
At the same time though, now I am kind of stuck with the S-Trim blower after reaching its max output, which for me was a downside of the kit I got. Since I bought a used kit, I didn't get the option to upgrade the blower right off the bat, and I was told it would be around $2k to upgrade to a T-Trim now. The T-Trim is basically the same as the Novi 1500, which is standard with ECS kits.
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At the same time though, now I am kind of stuck with the S-Trim blower after reaching its max output, which for me was a downside of the kit I got. Since I bought a used kit, I didn't get the option to upgrade the blower right off the bat, and I was told it would be around $2k to upgrade to a T-Trim now
. The T-Trim is basically the same as the Novi 1500, which is standard with ECS kits.Ant
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Thats good news. I'm pretty sure A&A does that too when buying a new system through them. Since I already have a used system though, I have to deal with the pains of the upgrade costs. In the long run a new system would have been cheaper from the start.
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I'm in a similar boat. I went ECS this time, but wish I would have gone 2200R from the get go. I too bought a used head unit for this build. I had an A&A kit on my C6 with the si-trim and was a great kit and met my power goals at the time.
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