From 10 psi to 7 psi, higher temp or new exhaust the cause?
#1
From 10 psi to 7 psi, higher temp or new exhaust the cause?
Hey guys just trying to figure out whats going on with my boost levels. Usually I am right around 9-10 psi at the top of 3rd gear. But I feel like its been a bit slower lately (which I thought was just from the heat) but haven't really been watching the boost guage. I recently installed an axle back 3" system from hooker which is an awesome upgrade. I measured parts on the factory NPP system that choked down to 2.2" in a couple spots while the new exhaust is full 3", even the valves themselves. The car sounds so much better but it feels a little slower to me with this mod so I look at the boost guage and im now maxing out to 7 psi at the top of 3rd.
I know that headers would do this (make the boost drop) but this is also the case with just an axle back? I really do not think there are any leaks or problems with the car. I do have one pulley lower that I have never installed because I haven't wanted to go over 10 psi but now that I am down to 7 psi im thinking maybe I should install it and hope for ending up back around 9-10 psi? I have an AA kit with meth injection and exhaust. Otherwise the car is stock. It was sitting at about 650 whp but at the moment I would guess im down to about 600. Does it sound normal to lose boost and hp with an exhaust upgrade? Would I be ok to install that new lower pulley without retuning the whole car since I would likely be right back to around 9-10 psi which the car is tuned for? I think the car is running a little rich (I am guessing) since the install and the lower boost but maybe the maf is making the needed adjustments automatically?
I really hope I do not need a retune because in Boise where I moved to I do not know of anyone that is capable of retuning my car to my standard. Thoughts?
I know that headers would do this (make the boost drop) but this is also the case with just an axle back? I really do not think there are any leaks or problems with the car. I do have one pulley lower that I have never installed because I haven't wanted to go over 10 psi but now that I am down to 7 psi im thinking maybe I should install it and hope for ending up back around 9-10 psi? I have an AA kit with meth injection and exhaust. Otherwise the car is stock. It was sitting at about 650 whp but at the moment I would guess im down to about 600. Does it sound normal to lose boost and hp with an exhaust upgrade? Would I be ok to install that new lower pulley without retuning the whole car since I would likely be right back to around 9-10 psi which the car is tuned for? I think the car is running a little rich (I am guessing) since the install and the lower boost but maybe the maf is making the needed adjustments automatically?
I really hope I do not need a retune because in Boise where I moved to I do not know of anyone that is capable of retuning my car to my standard. Thoughts?
#3
Definitely retune for a pulley change and maybe wait until the same temp as last tune.. Maybe your belt is slipping? That's a big drop. Maybe it's the heat. Texas?
I was down from 7 psi to 3-4 psi due to belt slip at top of 3rd
I was down from 7 psi to 3-4 psi due to belt slip at top of 3rd
#4
moved from 4500 ft to 2700 ft and that didn't change much but now with the crazy hot days we have lately it must be causing some type of boost problem. So the air temp for summer temps high enough to dprop psi or is it from the upgraded exhaust axle back>? What is my next thing to check>\?
#6
Racer
Your mod's along with the summer temps would definitely cause a drop in boost of several psi.
#7
#8
Ok thanks for your input. I did some testing over the last few days. I don't really ever go full throttle very often so I just didn't notice how much of a difference the heat made.
So in 100 degree weather the car maxes out at 7.5 psi (in 3rd gear, I don't do this often but this was for testing), the next day I was able to get out in 90 degree weather and the boost was the same 7.5 psi max in 3rd.
Then this morning I was able to get out in 80 degree weather and holy crap what a difference that makes, I gained a full psi went to about 8.5 and it felt like an additional 40 hp then the previous days. I cant even imagine how it will feel when it drops to 40-50 degrees I am stoked. I feel like I def picked up some power from the axle back, how much would you guys guess of a gain? The car was right at about 650 whp with the stock exhaust.
So in 100 degree weather the car maxes out at 7.5 psi (in 3rd gear, I don't do this often but this was for testing), the next day I was able to get out in 90 degree weather and the boost was the same 7.5 psi max in 3rd.
Then this morning I was able to get out in 80 degree weather and holy crap what a difference that makes, I gained a full psi went to about 8.5 and it felt like an additional 40 hp then the previous days. I cant even imagine how it will feel when it drops to 40-50 degrees I am stoked. I feel like I def picked up some power from the axle back, how much would you guys guess of a gain? The car was right at about 650 whp with the stock exhaust.
#9
Safety Car
I bet from the higher temps it was pulling timing for safety