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Old Jun 24, 2019 | 11:48 AM
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hey guys so the shop called me today and said i need to get pistons that are 5 though larger.

option is -2cc OR -12cc in the size i need

opinions? is lower compression better for boosted applications on a DI motor? will this affect anything i currently have?

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I wouldn't go any lower than 10:5 on it I don't know what ci bore you went with on your set up. I went with stock bore and went back with stock comp on it but did port the heads. Robert
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Why? On a boosted application given the opportunity I’d go down to 10.5:1 instead of stock. He’s running a YSI-B which could get him into the low 20 psi range. He should lower compression some.

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Old Jun 25, 2019 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 2014C7Z51
hey guys so the shop called me today and said i need to get pistons that are 5 though larger.

option is -2cc OR -12cc in the size i need

opinions? is lower compression better for boosted applications on a DI motor? will this affect anything i currently have?

ysi-b 2.7 pulley
stage 3 tsp blwoer cam
full valve train & manifold/tb setup
stock* lower c.i. and a bigger cam will affect driveability due to lower cylinder pressure
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Old Jun 25, 2019 | 01:27 PM
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stock* lower c.i. and a bigger cam will affect driveability due to lower cylinder pressure
No it doesn’t. Just about every boosted built motor you see from LME, Texas Speed, etc is 10.5:1 which is lower than stock. Thousands on the road including mine. Runs fine with a huge cam and all the boost.
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Old Jun 25, 2019 | 01:36 PM
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Why? On a boosted application given the opportunity I’d go down to 10.5:1 instead of stock. He’s running a YSI-B which could get him into the low 20 psi range. He should lower compression some.
^^This. Don’t run 20+ psi on a stock compression motor. And by the way, the difference between those two piston options are not 10.5:1 and stock. Their actually 10.5:1 or 11.7:1 raising your compression slightly. Saying to use “stock” compression is just not the right answer here as Tim mentioned above.
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Old Jun 26, 2019 | 09:33 PM
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What fuel will you be running?
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if you're turning the boost up a lot (15+), then lower compression will help as far as cylinder pressure is concerned, but that's also more for if you're planning on running around in high boost all the time because when compared to higher compression, you have more air in the cylinder at the same cylinder pressure. it also creates a larger tuning window before detonation. what you lose from it, though, is part-throttle response & efficiency.
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Originally Posted by _zebra
if you're turning the boost up a lot (15+), then lower compression will help as far as cylinder pressure is concerned, but that's also more for if you're planning on running around in high boost all the time because when compared to higher compression, you have more air in the cylinder at the same cylinder pressure. it also creates a larger tuning window before detonation. what you lose from it, though, is part-throttle response & efficiency.
I agree with this statement 100% I went with stock comp due to not going over 15 psi but did go with all forged parts in the block.. Will not be going crazy with this car & sey up only a small A/A TI head unit with all good parts... Robert
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At the end of the day we are talking about cylinder pressure to make hp. If you start out with a higher static comp. You will need less boost to make desired cylinder pressure. Lower boost means lower IATs which makes more power per psi of boost.
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 11:04 PM
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also take your cam into account. if it lowers dynamic CR, it wouldn't hurt to bump up static CR to compensate.
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cam is a tsp stage 3
fueling is 94 daily and 105 on track
pulley on the ysi-b is a 2.7

car has the following mods:

dsx lowside
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ported tb
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thats the highlevel gist of it
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Get a better bang for boost levels.. stock compression
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