What do you NOT want in a C7?
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Why?
Compared to coiled steel, the transverse leaf spring is much more compact, lighter, never sags, never rusts, and lasts about 10 times as long. That translates into a lighter, better handling car, that's easier to design, is more reliable, and cheaper to maintain and own.
So what makes the leaf spring worse?
Compared to coiled steel, the transverse leaf spring is much more compact, lighter, never sags, never rusts, and lasts about 10 times as long. That translates into a lighter, better handling car, that's easier to design, is more reliable, and cheaper to maintain and own.
So what makes the leaf spring worse?
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Use new LED technology to make a headlight that can flip and stay flush with the body when it's turned on, yet will give the traditional "hidden headlight" look when turned off. LED's are light enough for a return to flip up headlights and give a better headlight beam than projectors.
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Please, no mid-engined Corvettes--ever! Keep the V8 and give it more HP. Give me fog lights that match the headlights. Also keep the exposed headlights, I like them and they're much more aerodynamic than the hidden headlights. I'm short (5'3") so give the steering wheel more tilt so I can tilt it down more to suit my driving needs. Give more interior leather color options. Give me an option to delete OnStar. Other than that, I'm ready to order the C7 in about three years or so!
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It's very easy to disable OnStar by disconnecting some of the wire connectors from the OnStar box, which is located under the carpet in the right rear storage compartment. The procedure does not compromise any other function and does not set trouble codes. Physically removing the box and antenna involves a bit more work.
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Also, thanks to andrecswe, who had every right to say "RTMF, you moron!", but didn't. Now I keep that right side temp button pushed to disable the 2-zone feature.
It's very easy to disable OnStar by disconnecting some of the wire connectors from the OnStar box, which is located under the carpet in the right rear storage compartment. The procedure does not compromise any other function and does not set trouble codes. Physically removing the box and antenna involves a bit more work.
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Also, thanks to andrecswe, who had every right to say "RTMF, you moron!", but didn't. Now I keep that right side temp button pushed to disable the 2-zone feature.
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Why?
Compared to coiled steel, the transverse leaf spring is much more compact, lighter, never sags, never rusts, and lasts about 10 times as long. That translates into a lighter, better handling car, that's easier to design, is more reliable, and cheaper to maintain and own.
So what makes the leaf spring worse?
Compared to coiled steel, the transverse leaf spring is much more compact, lighter, never sags, never rusts, and lasts about 10 times as long. That translates into a lighter, better handling car, that's easier to design, is more reliable, and cheaper to maintain and own.
So what makes the leaf spring worse?
"More compact"? My coilovers live in the wasted space around each shock. However, removing the front transverse has freed up some useful space for coolers and associated plumbing. That takes care of "lighter" and "much more compact".
Regarding the "never sags" claim, I'd like to see data from a controlled experiment showing that the plastic used for the springs does not ever take a set. You may be 100% correct for all I know today, but it's one of those claims that doesn't sound right to me.
Regarding "more reliable" and "cheaper to maintain and own", again, I'd sure like to see the controlled experiment data supporting those claims. "Reliable"? There are a lot of coil sprung cars and trucks on the road, and I don't hear much about spring failures. And "cheaper"? Let's compare the cost of a 4 corner spring rate change. My 4 coils run ~$80 each, total is ~$320. Have you priced transverse leafs of various spring rates?
"Better handing car"? I'm having a hard time understanding how spring type influences handling. Spring rate, absolutely! This doesn't prove anything, I realize, but it sure seems to me that Vette racers like to switch to coilovers if the rules permit. And I'm pretty sure they value good handling.
I will concede that my powder coated coilovers may rust to uselessness after a few decades of use, especially if I regularly spray them with salt water. But the odds are pretty good that will be somebody else's problem.
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I'd like to see auto-pilot for long trips.. I'd like to just fall asleep. That'd be nice! I agree with getting rid of the packages. It's a load of crap. All I wanted for my wife's car was cruise control, but there was about 15 other things I didn't want and another $4k involved.... Let me pic what I want then get it to me in a timely manor.. Toyota is able to do it, I'm pretty sure GM can too!
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Do NOT move the exhaust tips!
Dead center of the rear is beautiful!
I keep seeing "concept" photochops of the C7 and they all have the exhaust moved to the outside, please dont do it.
Dead center of the rear is beautiful!
I keep seeing "concept" photochops of the C7 and they all have the exhaust moved to the outside, please dont do it.
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I do not want more weight. I want less weight. Cut the base weight by 10%.
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I sure hope influential Chevy employees read CF! Please, please, please,
- If I turn my goofball automatic headlights off, LEAVE THEM OFF! Don't make me have to trick your foolish BCM by quickly turning the headlight **** to off right after starting the car in my garage on a bright, sunny morning. EVERY DAY!
You can can knock yourselves out designing cars that think for us. Many, perhaps most, like it that way. For the rest of us, please provide a manual mode that sticks for each of these automatic systems!
- If I turn my goofball automatic headlights off, LEAVE THEM OFF! Don't make me have to trick your foolish BCM by quickly turning the headlight **** to off right after starting the car in my garage on a bright, sunny morning. EVERY DAY!
You can can knock yourselves out designing cars that think for us. Many, perhaps most, like it that way. For the rest of us, please provide a manual mode that sticks for each of these automatic systems!
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I guess the headlight manufacturers wanted GM to shorten lamp life as much as possible.
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How about something that could be simple. I don't want the fuel filter inside the gas tank where I can't service it.
How about some "Photo-gray windows that automatically tint in the sunlight and clear as the day gets darker. That way we don't have to deal with dark tinted windows at night, or bake in the sun during the day.
How about some "Photo-gray windows that automatically tint in the sunlight and clear as the day gets darker. That way we don't have to deal with dark tinted windows at night, or bake in the sun during the day.
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I don't want HUD, NAV, Cupholders, Ash Tray, 6-Disc CD Changer, Flip-up Headlights. Steering Wheel Controls, Sunvisor Universal Controls or Leather Wrapped interior (just steering wheel, seats of standard models).
I do want expressive revolutionary styling with exposed HIDs, less weight (2900 lbs), 6-Speed Manual Transmission, Run Flat Tires, tighter body with same passenger room, but willing to forego some of the cargo space (don't need room for golf culbs).
I do want a Sport Touring Sports Car, but not a luxo GT Cruiser for the Country Club...
I do want expressive revolutionary styling with exposed HIDs, less weight (2900 lbs), 6-Speed Manual Transmission, Run Flat Tires, tighter body with same passenger room, but willing to forego some of the cargo space (don't need room for golf culbs).
I do want a Sport Touring Sports Car, but not a luxo GT Cruiser for the Country Club...
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I can handle the DRLs. It's the fact that my HID headlights auto-turn-on every morning in the garage unless I'm awake enough to hold the headlight switch in the CUT IT OUT position immediately after the engine starts. This occurs when it's bright and sunny outside. I've never before seen a car with light sensing headlights that could not be put in full manual mode.
I guess the headlight manufacturers wanted GM to shorten lamp life as much as possible.
I guess the headlight manufacturers wanted GM to shorten lamp life as much as possible.
If you leave the switch in the PARKING LIGHT position, all the lights shut off when you turn off the car. And the HID headlights do NOT come on in the garage the next time you start the car.
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Remove the DRL, Chryslers and Fords do not have them this is a Canadian law not a US law. Give back the "Radio Delete" option, I do not need endless racket to enjoy my drive. Get rid of the stupid OnStar, I have a cell phone. Make the seating position fit the average person in America, start with a Telescoping wheel that actually moves out far enough so that you don't have to jam your knees into the dash to reach it. There is enough power, there is too much weight.
Assume that everyone bought the car to drive the bejesus out of it, put decent wheel bearings and brakes on it and get rid of the steering wheel controls. Guess what? Some people can drive and need zero electronic aids to hustle a car around. Make at least one model with low weight and none of these idiotic electronic "Enhancements", no power locks windows or seats, something like a 1LE package...
Try not to hire the guy again that styled the Mitsubishi 3000 so that the car will look a bit better. Maybe Pinninfarina or Bertone could help here. The C5 is so much nicer to look at than the C6 that I am waiting until the C7 to buy a new car. Please don't let the guy who did the horrible new Camaro into the room
Assume that everyone bought the car to drive the bejesus out of it, put decent wheel bearings and brakes on it and get rid of the steering wheel controls. Guess what? Some people can drive and need zero electronic aids to hustle a car around. Make at least one model with low weight and none of these idiotic electronic "Enhancements", no power locks windows or seats, something like a 1LE package...
Try not to hire the guy again that styled the Mitsubishi 3000 so that the car will look a bit better. Maybe Pinninfarina or Bertone could help here. The C5 is so much nicer to look at than the C6 that I am waiting until the C7 to buy a new car. Please don't let the guy who did the horrible new Camaro into the room