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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 05:38 PM
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OK - A lot of talk of what the C7 is going to look like and some of the options and stuff that are going to be on the car.

What hasn't been talked about is what the hell is GM going to do about the maintenance on the C7 ? It's hard enough right now with the current generation cars - the C6 is just a regular car - Z06 a production race car and God help the ZR1 folks - trying to find a GOOD Mech that knows the car - whats going to happen with a totally new car - engine - trans being the biggest changes that we think are coming - excluding the appearance

The dealer's are going to have to pay to send a mech to school just for this car - I currenlty trust very few mechs at GM dealers now so the furture doesn't look to promissing.

Lets hope that the pride at the factory is rejuvenated and the quality of construction has improved with all the $$$ they spent on the factory. As for the new motor and trans lets hope they also hold up and you don't need to take the car in at all!

Not goin happen!

Obviously one source are the tuners out there - butt - just like car dealers there are good ones and then there are the ones that take your $$$ and kick you out! I guess this is true for any kind of car - finding and trusting people to work on your car!

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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 08:28 PM
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WTF is the point of your post? You are putting a spin on a topic that has been beaten to death on here, ad nausea.

We don't even know what the car is yet, and you are wringing your hands over maintenance?

It will be as it is now, which in my opinion means a few mechanics may make an error or two, as has happened on all cars for years!

Some CF members who have had problems will scream "The sky is falling." Most of us, 99% of who don't post on here, are satisfied.
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 08:40 PM
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None of us know what the C7 is yet, so impossible to know what's its issues may prove to be.

Audi and others had issues with DI systems coking valves, requiring the heads be pulled every 25k miles or so for the valves to be de-coked, at significant expense. Based on what I've been able to find and read, it appears Ford and GM have figured out how to avoid that. We'll have to wait and see if their Gen V V8 will develop valve coking problems or not.

Outside of that, I'm sure the tuners will need some time to "break into" the systems and learn how to tweak them.

Regular maintenance tho? I suspect that will be fairly straight-forward. And some dealers who already do a good job with their customers will continue to do so, and those that don't may stay the same as well.
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by OnPoint
None of us know what the C7 is yet, so impossible to know what's its issues may prove to be.

Audi and others had issues with DI systems coking valves, requiring the heads be pulled every 25k miles or so for the valves to be de-coked, at significant expense. Based on what I've been able to find and read, it appears Ford and GM have figured out how to avoid that. We'll have to wait and see if their Gen V V8 will develop valve coking problems or not.

Outside of that, I'm sure the tuners will need some time to "break into" the systems and learn how to tweak them.

Regular maintenance tho? I suspect that will be fairly straight-forward. And some dealers who already do a good job with their customers will continue to do so, and those that don't may stay the same as well.
Please explain "coking valves" and "de-coking".

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Please explain "coking valves" and "de-coking".

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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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For those of us who understand computers AND working on cars the Corvette is not only EASY to work on but also SUPER BASIC.

Honestly the automotive industry is just starting to scratch the surface of what is possible with computers and circuitry. I actually have plans with the new Google automation incorporated into Android to convert a classic musclecar over to run all electrical systems off a single android tablet.

The C7 will still be very basic In relation to what the true possibilities are. The problem is reliability. These outdated pieces of tech that "look" digital but are still very much mechanical are simply more reliable than the "new" stuff. We will get there eventually but it is still a ways off.
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For those of us who understand computers AND working on cars the Corvette is not only EASY to work on but also SUPER BASIC.

Honestly the automotive industry is just starting to scratch the surface of what is possible with computers and circuitry. I actually have plans with the new Google automation incorporated into Android to convert a classic musclecar over to run all electrical systems off a single android tablet.

The C7 will still be very basic In relation to what the true possibilities are. The problem is reliability. These outdated pieces of tech that "look" digital but are still very much mechanical are simply more reliable than the "new" stuff. We will get there eventually but it is still a ways off.
On an upside when we finally do get there I won't have 400 wires running into each door so my computer can figure out that I pushed a button to put my top down so it should roll the windows down. It is downright archaic.
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GM has been building direct-injection V6s since MY2008 -- that's six years of experience relative to the MY2014 Corvette. Chevrolet dealerships have been selling and servicing direct-injection V6s from MY2009 (Traverse, and in MY2010 Camaro and Equinox).

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GM has been building direct-injection V6s since MY2008 -- that's six years of experience relative to the MY2014 Corvette. Chevrolet dealerships have been selling and servicing direct-injection V6s from MY2009 (Traverse, and in MY2010 Camaro and Equinox).
Yup. And like I said above, based on what I've been able to find and read, it appears both Ford and GM have found a way to avoid the valve coking problems Audi and others have experienced on DI engines.

I'm optimistic it won't be an issue on their Gen V V8.
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jinx
GM has been building direct-injection V6s since MY2008 -- that's six years of experience relative to the MY2014 Corvette. Chevrolet dealerships have been selling and servicing direct-injection V6s from MY2009 (Traverse, and in MY2010 Camaro and Equinox).
They also had the 2.0L turbo LNF since the 07 solstice and sky gxp/redline cars.

I agree from everything I've read, it seems that GM and Ford's designs are not susceptible to those issues.
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