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Old 05-21-2012, 12:02 PM
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Tried and true tremec trans or should GM explore other options?

What about a DCT trans or even better the new transmission in the 370z. ( manual with a clutch pedal but performs rev matching while downshifting)

The latter would be a very nice touch I think.
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Expect a much improved torque converter/paddle shift auto.

And a stick shift.
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Originally Posted by OnPoint
Expect a much improved torque converter/paddle shift auto.

And a stick shift.
I like the way the A6 has been continually refined . . . GM is trying to straddle the line between performance shifts and durability, I think. And The General will always err on the side of caution with the 100K warranty at risk.

Regarding the M6, I predict it will still be the Mexican-built 6-speed. More gears may come after 2-3 years for both boxes.
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Originally Posted by OnPoint
Expect a much improved torque converter/paddle shift auto.

And a stick shift.
Must not be trying to compete with the Viper!
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Originally Posted by OnPoint
Expect a much improved torque converter/paddle shift auto.

And a stick shift.
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Originally Posted by OnPoint
Expect a much improved torque converter/paddle shift auto.

And a stick shift.
But that stick shift may very well be 7 speeds forward and not just 6. I'm still sort of confident about that one rumor/spy shot being 'for real'.





Originally Posted by johnglenntwo
Must not be trying to compete with the Viper!
How do ya figure?

Viper = 6 speed manual only

Corvette = 6 (or 7?) speed manual with an automatic as optional

Z06s and ZR1s = also manual only

The way I see it, the Viper must not be trying to compete with the Corvette.
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I could be wrong, but I believe that Chevrolet already confirmed a 7 speed manual, and that there would not be a DCT option initially.
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I would love to see them go to a sequential shift manual transmission (like the EMCO modded ones)....at least offer it in the C7 Z06/ZR1
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
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How do ya figure?

Viper = 6 speed manual only

Corvette = 6 (or 7?) speed manual with an automatic as optional

Z06s and ZR1s = also manual only

The way I see it, the Viper must not be trying to compete with the Corvette.
Forced induction can run hot and has been a problem with the ZR1 all the way back to Wagoner before the ZR1s release. And it has continued to be a problem since and that is well documented on this forum. The Viper now makes equivalent power NA.

GM has work to do! A hot transmission would make them able to use a lesser powered souped-up Z06 against the Viper, and maybe save some gas!

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Note prior C7 thread on this same subject with 207 posts as of 4/30/12:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...nsmission.html
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All I know is it better have a seven speed manual or I'm going to need a new license plate.
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Originally Posted by WildVettes
All I know is it better have a seven speed manual or I'm going to need a new license plate.
You cold always claim one of the gears is reverse
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They will really miss the performance ball if they don't offer a 7 speed DCT like the others do. It is the price of playing in the big leagues.

Maybe drop the automatic and offer a manual transmission as standard with an optional DCT that satisfies the people who want/need an automatic and the people who want all out performance. Then after a year or so when the old die hards see how much fun they are missing drop the manual and offer the DCT as the only transmission. On a low volume car a single transmission choice probably can save a lot of money although the cost of the individual transmissions may be more. Transmission logistics support would be cut in half and overall it just might have a bottom line impact on a low volume car's cost.

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Originally Posted by Racer X
You cold always claim one of the gears is reverse
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
They will really miss the performance ball if they don't offer a 7 speed DCT like the others do. It is the price of playing in the big leagues.

Maybe drop the automatic and offer a manual transmission as standard with an optional DCT that satisfies the people who want/need an automatic and the people who want all out performance. Then after a year or so when the old die hards see how much fun they are missing drop the manual and offer the DCT as the only transmission. On a low volume car a single transmission choice probably can save a lot of money although the cost of the individual transmissions may be more. Transmission logistics support would be cut in half and overall it just might have a bottom line impact on a low volume car's cost.

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I would prefer a traditional manual over the absolute fastest acceleration. For me, just because I could program a car to run the fastest lap around a track on autopilot doesn't mean I would want it to.

DCT is a great option for the auto crowd, but it wouldn't be my cup of tea.
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Originally Posted by WildVettes
I would prefer a traditional manual over the absolute fastest acceleration. For me, just because I could program a car to run the fastest lap around a track on autopilot doesn't mean I would want it to.

DCT is a great option for the auto crowd, but it wouldn't be my cup of tea.
While I too would love to see a DCT/sequential manuamatic transmission become available, I still think many current 'three pedal' manual drivers also agree with you on that.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
While I too would love to see a DCT/sequential manuamatic transmission become available, I still think many current 'three pedal' manual drivers also agree with you on that.
Probably true. Would this be the first DCT offered by GM? If so . . . "Buyer Beware", big time.

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Originally Posted by WildVettes
I would prefer a traditional manual over the absolute fastest acceleration. For me, just because I could program a car to run the fastest lap around a track on autopilot doesn't mean I would want it to.

DCT is a great option for the auto crowd, but it wouldn't be my cup of tea.
It is also a great option for the manual crowd. It is just a manual transmission that can be operated in manual or automated mode. No autopilot to it just damned quick shifts. In manual mode the only differences in operation are you don't have a clutch pedal as the transmission operates the clutch for you while you use paddles on the steering wheel to change gears instead of a stick protruding from the floor. Don't get hung up on flopping a stick around to shift gears.

Instead of the stick pushing some levers inside the transmission the paddles send electrical signals to some solenoids in the transmission that push the levers instead. Same operation just a different way to make it happen. No different than fly by wire throttle control Vs cable or rod throttle control or hydraulic assisted steering Vs electrically assisted steering.

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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
It is also a great option for the manual crowd. It is just a manual transmission that can be operated in manual or automated mode. No autopilot to it just damned quick shifts. In manual mode the only differences in operation are you don't have a clutch pedal as the transmission operates the clutch for you while you use paddles on the steering wheel to change gears instead of a stick protruding from the floor. Don't get hung up on flopping a stick around to shift gears.

Instead of the stick pushing some levers inside the transmission the paddles send electrical signals to some solenoids in the transmission that push the levers instead. Same operation just a different way to make it happen. No different than fly by wire throttle control Vs cable or rod throttle control or hydraulic assisted steering Vs electrically assisted steering.


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Grabbing that stick coming up out of the ground is what is fun for me. Pushing a button to shift a manual transmission is like driving a manual on a video game.
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Originally Posted by WildVettes
Grabbing that stick coming up out of the ground is what is fun for me. Pushing a button to shift a manual transmission is like driving a manual on a video game.


But a missed shift under hard acceleration can be irritating, and embarrassing, if not expensive and noisy.


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