maybe this is why the mystery
#21
Melting Slicks
Define "C6 re-skin" or "C6 freshening"?
The C6 underpinnings are already simply fantastic, extremely solid/stiff yet lightweight frame/structure, 4 wheel independent suspension, double wishbone aluminum control arms, rack and pinion steering, composite springs, there's always room for improvement of course but not sure how much 'major change' I'd even want in those areas. If a system works....
Now if the the 2014 Corvette comes out with:
An all new engine.
All new transmission(s).
New (and much improved) interior/seats/infotainment system.
All new body panels and lighting from top to bottom, front to back and left to right.
New wheels/tires.
Can it really be called simply a reskinned/refreshed C6?
The C6 underpinnings are already simply fantastic, extremely solid/stiff yet lightweight frame/structure, 4 wheel independent suspension, double wishbone aluminum control arms, rack and pinion steering, composite springs, there's always room for improvement of course but not sure how much 'major change' I'd even want in those areas. If a system works....
Now if the the 2014 Corvette comes out with:
An all new engine.
All new transmission(s).
New (and much improved) interior/seats/infotainment system.
All new body panels and lighting from top to bottom, front to back and left to right.
New wheels/tires.
Can it really be called simply a reskinned/refreshed C6?
#22
Team Owner
The (stellar and already awesome) underside might 'resemble' a C6 as will the basic exterior shape (heck, even a 350Z resembles a C6 in the eyes of the average 80 year old grandmother LOL ) but I think much (most?) of this car will be all new.
#23
Melting Slicks
Define "C6 re-skin" or "C6 freshening"?
The C6 underpinnings are already simply fantastic, extremely solid/stiff yet lightweight frame/structure, 4 wheel independent suspension, double wishbone aluminum control arms, rack and pinion steering, composite springs, there's always room for improvement of course but not sure how much 'major change' I'd even want in those areas. If a system works....
Now if the the 2014 Corvette comes out with:
An all new engine.
All new transmission(s).
New (and much improved) interior/seats/infotainment system.
All new body panels and lighting from top to bottom, front to back and left to right.
New wheels/tires.
Can it really be called simply a reskinned/refreshed C6?
The C6 underpinnings are already simply fantastic, extremely solid/stiff yet lightweight frame/structure, 4 wheel independent suspension, double wishbone aluminum control arms, rack and pinion steering, composite springs, there's always room for improvement of course but not sure how much 'major change' I'd even want in those areas. If a system works....
Now if the the 2014 Corvette comes out with:
An all new engine.
All new transmission(s).
New (and much improved) interior/seats/infotainment system.
All new body panels and lighting from top to bottom, front to back and left to right.
New wheels/tires.
Can it really be called simply a reskinned/refreshed C6?
I can see Corvette getting infotainment from Cadillac CUE. Can they get a Corvette transmission from another GM car?
I can see new transmission options (DCT) in C7 year 3 or 4. Why give up all the goodies in year 1? They simply won't need more than a new body and interior in years 1 & 2 to sell a ton of C7.
#27
Team Owner
Oh man we can only hope/pray that they do actually read this board (and others), maybe they can get an idea of what some other Corvette owners/enthusiasts (that are outside of their usual focus/survey groups) think and have to say about future Corvettes.
#28
Melting Slicks
#29
Melting Slicks
They'd have to mine a lot of ore to find nuggets in here.
#30
I'm "Apache" a psycho dog
With the financial difficulties GM has had the last couple years it may be more evolutionary the revolutionary.
#32
Melting Slicks
Beyond the CF nonsense we see everyday, GM & Corvette focus groups will target specific demographics; income, age, married/single, children, profession, hobbies, where you live, car buying history, etc. Too much money is at stake to take random advice from strangers too seriously. One demographic in particular would be critical; people who actually buy new Corvettes, people who have/are considering a new Corvette, and those buying Corvette targeted competitors. Many posting here on CF don't buy new and will never buy new Corvettes.
Cheers,
JB
Cheers,
JB
#33
Former Vendor
Here is what I think is the root of the problem people see with a re-skin. My mother in law and sister in law can't tell the difference between my C5 and my C6 from 30 feet apart. If they saw the cars at different times they would have no clue which was which.
People want a radical change so that any person anywhere knows it is new. The problem is your average typical person couldn't tell the new version of a Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche, Gently, Rolls Royce, Mercedes, BMW, etc.
My wife has become knowledgeable about Corvette because of me and can spot the differences immediately and says she likes my C6 way better than my C5. Her biggest thing was the interior change from the C5 to C6. I even go so far as to make her figure out the year now based on colors, wheels, and options. She is getting much better now. .
If you are hoping for a change that makes the average Joe Blow go wow that is the new Corvette you may be disappointed. If you are looking for a new model that is better in every way I think you will be more than satisfied.
We have already seen the car under Camo and it isn't going to be a huge redesign.
People want a radical change so that any person anywhere knows it is new. The problem is your average typical person couldn't tell the new version of a Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche, Gently, Rolls Royce, Mercedes, BMW, etc.
My wife has become knowledgeable about Corvette because of me and can spot the differences immediately and says she likes my C6 way better than my C5. Her biggest thing was the interior change from the C5 to C6. I even go so far as to make her figure out the year now based on colors, wheels, and options. She is getting much better now. .
If you are hoping for a change that makes the average Joe Blow go wow that is the new Corvette you may be disappointed. If you are looking for a new model that is better in every way I think you will be more than satisfied.
We have already seen the car under Camo and it isn't going to be a huge redesign.
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Melting Slicks
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I was told by a person in the know that we would see the C7 changes from the C6 a great as those from the C4 to C5 (which suggests a basically new car)!
I personally don't believe it ... GM had limited money to design and develop a whole new car .. so my "say" is very much like the C6 with all having an aluminum frame, new skins, initial intro with the C6 powertrain including engine and tranny. ... and much needed interior improvements (though still won't impress the press) and improved electronic and info systems.
I personally don't believe it ... GM had limited money to design and develop a whole new car .. so my "say" is very much like the C6 with all having an aluminum frame, new skins, initial intro with the C6 powertrain including engine and tranny. ... and much needed interior improvements (though still won't impress the press) and improved electronic and info systems.
#36
Melting Slicks
I was told by a person in the know that we would see the C7 changes from the C6 a great as those from the C4 to C5 (which suggests a basically new car)!
I personally don't believe it ... GM had limited money to design and develop a whole new car .. so my "say" is very much like the C6 with all having an aluminum frame, new skins, initial intro with the C6 powertrain including engine and tranny. ... and much needed interior improvements (though still won't impress the press) and improved electronic and info systems.
I personally don't believe it ... GM had limited money to design and develop a whole new car .. so my "say" is very much like the C6 with all having an aluminum frame, new skins, initial intro with the C6 powertrain including engine and tranny. ... and much needed interior improvements (though still won't impress the press) and improved electronic and info systems.
#37
ok.in my eyes..maybe the reason all the.mystery and no pics or info is because the car is totally what we are not expecting.this is the most secretive vette and im thinking its because it is a totally NEW car.and that's why they're building that suspense.i can't wait to see it.bit im just thinking outside the box here.personally i barely like the c6 and therefore can't wait.but im just looking at the obvious signs right infront of me.or maybe its because its still having problems therefore were in the dark.either way i bet it will be worth the wait.
usually too much suspense leads to disappointment.
#38
Team Owner
if you barely like the c6, don't hold your breath. don't know if it is the looks or the performance or combination. it is very unlikely that it will be vastly different looking from the c6. it may have more horsepower and more up to date electronics for user interface, but that is it.
I believe that the C7 will be as much different from the C6 as the C6 was from the C5.
Now to some that's not much or at least 'not enough', but I tend to disagree.
#39
Burning Brakes
As much as I would like to see that, I too can't really believe it either.
Fortunately I do like (love) the C6. It takes A LOT to get me to part with money but that car was simply calling my name almost from the very first time I'd seen that red one from the Chevrolet commercial/spy photos up on the car carrier in San Francisco which lead me to barely hesitate in dropping that nearly $50k ca$h for one years ago (and still with NO regrets/buyer's remorse for having done so).
I believe that the C7 will be as much different from the C6 as the C6 was from the C5.
Now to some that's not much or at least 'not enough', but I tend to disagree.
Fortunately I do like (love) the C6. It takes A LOT to get me to part with money but that car was simply calling my name almost from the very first time I'd seen that red one from the Chevrolet commercial/spy photos up on the car carrier in San Francisco which lead me to barely hesitate in dropping that nearly $50k ca$h for one years ago (and still with NO regrets/buyer's remorse for having done so).
I believe that the C7 will be as much different from the C6 as the C6 was from the C5.
Now to some that's not much or at least 'not enough', but I tend to disagree.
It's a beautiful car and I'm praying the deviation is not too drastic.
Was prepared to purchase in '08 but ended up doing the whole marriage, wedding, honeymoon/ house, baby making, renovations thing.
(in that order) Now that that's all 'taken care of' and before the wife gets her Suburban..I can afford it comfortably, but I'd like to at least get a little more info or picture of the c7 with just a little less camo before I decide.
Just..a little less.. And maybe news on the transmission, or a teaser shot of the interior.
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#40
Le Mans Master
Bankruptcy is a chance to reorganize and re-energize. It does not spell the end of a company.
Look at GM's financial results over the last two years. Something to be proud of.
Look at what GM has introduced here and around the world during the same time. A whole lot to be proud of!
GM doesn't have to build a new, ground up C7 to have a successful model. Just keep enhancing what they have.
Look at GM's financial results over the last two years. Something to be proud of.
Look at what GM has introduced here and around the world during the same time. A whole lot to be proud of!
GM doesn't have to build a new, ground up C7 to have a successful model. Just keep enhancing what they have.