Talked to someone from GM...
#1
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Talked to someone from GM...
...yesterday at Bloomington Gold.
5.5L, 450hp range
NO V6
Long, thin, LED lights along the fender, Cadillac like
Possible split window option
Some retro design cues
5.5L, 450hp range
NO V6
Long, thin, LED lights along the fender, Cadillac like
Possible split window option
Some retro design cues
#5
Race Director
Let's look at the total package before being disappointed. The Z is really a no-compromises hard-edged car. It is not for everybody.
If the C7 comes in at 450HP and 3100 lbs, with great looks, excellent fuel efficiency, top-drawer interior and improved targa function, it will meet most Vette buyers' needs very well.
#6
Burning Brakes
then let's hope the ZR1 comes out within a year of the C7 release, because HP is what defined the Corvette...it's core American Muscle strength, not fuel economy!!!
#7
C5 had only 20 more HP (if that) than LT4 which it replaced but was a much better car and sold well.
Let's look at the total package before being disappointed. The Z is really a no-compromises hard-edged car. It is not for everybody.
If the C7 comes in at 450HP and 3100 lbs, with great looks, excellent fuel efficiency, top-drawer interior and improved targa function, it will meet most Vette buyers' needs very well.
Let's look at the total package before being disappointed. The Z is really a no-compromises hard-edged car. It is not for everybody.
If the C7 comes in at 450HP and 3100 lbs, with great looks, excellent fuel efficiency, top-drawer interior and improved targa function, it will meet most Vette buyers' needs very well.
C5 to C6 was a 50hp bump (350 vs 400), and ended up being a 86 hp bump a few years later (350 vs 436). GM needs to whip their D*ck out and show everyone what it means to be a corvette owner, and make a American bump in HP like ford did. At the very least we need to see 480hp for me to even consider the car. A C6 with one mod (Headers) shouldnt be more powerful than the C7.
With that being said, I'm going to call BS on this guys claim because I know Chevy knows better.
/rant
Last edited by LT1_E85_Corvette; 06-22-2012 at 11:55 AM.
#8
And I'm ok with it.
450hp would be the minimum I'd be happy with.
I'm literally not buying the "similar hp out of less displacement" approach.
I don't care if the size drops to 5.5L, it's got to put out at LEAST 450hp.
Last edited by JPJR; 06-22-2012 at 11:16 AM.
#9
Race Director
450 HP will be higher than for any price-competitve 2 seater, and the Vette will be lighter as well (which is an eye-opener for those of us who remember Vettes were always the "tank" of sports cars). I included fuel economy not as a dominant factor, but because, if you combine class-leading HP and fuel economy, you can sell "balance" and "superior engineering," which are worth a lot. I think 450 HP will do fine for most buyers, although I respect that some folks in this thread are really focused on HP.
#10
All right, scratch my previous post.
The scenario I want to see played out again is when the C6 came out with only 5hp less than the previous model's Z06.
That would mean 500hp for the base C7.
That's my new story and I'm sticking to it!
The scenario I want to see played out again is when the C6 came out with only 5hp less than the previous model's Z06.
That would mean 500hp for the base C7.
That's my new story and I'm sticking to it!
#11
Team Owner
I don't think 450hp would not be enough for me to sell my C5 and move to a C7 unless the C7 is just stunning and has an amazing interior. 475hp would be a better spot, 500hp would be great.
#13
500 is the key number in my mind. The base motor for the corvette goes in all of the new SS Camaros, and it's a win win for the sports division at GM. They could do this by simply placing DI on the LS3, which will effectively provided better fuel economy and gain a 12% bump in HP (503hp to be exact).
We are then crowned the leaders again in the HP race over Ford. Call it wishful thinking, but I think GM came make this a reality.
We are then crowned the leaders again in the HP race over Ford. Call it wishful thinking, but I think GM came make this a reality.
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450HP would probably not be enough to get me out of my C5 and into a C7.
#16
Melting Slicks
500 is the key number in my mind. The base motor for the corvette goes in all of the new SS Camaros, and it's a win win for the sports division at GM. They could do this by simply placing DI on the LS3, which will effectively provided better fuel economy and gain a 12% bump in HP (503hp to be exact).We are then crowned the leaders again in the HP race over Ford. Call it wishful thinking, but I think GM came make this a reality.
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I'm surprised so many people here only think in terms of power. Power-to-weight ratio is really the only number that matters. With a comparable ratio to the Z06 and improved handling, the C7 will be a monster
#19
Team Owner
Base C6 Curb Weight: 3200lb
Base C6 HP: 430
Weight vs HP 100lbs = 10hp
If people want the feel of 500hp, which I know I do, here are the numbers. Starting with a base C6 weight you will need 70hp more, or a reduction of 700lbs or a combination of the two. At 450hp, you need to shed 500lbs which isn't going to happen. At 475hp, you need to shed 250lbs which may be possible.
I won't go into the perils of power to weight. Power to weight is meaningful if the power is in a usable range which can be a problem with many engines. There isn't enough oomph off the line.
#20
Team Owner
I mean did he (or she) sound like they REALLY knew what they were taking about, were they at least passionate about it as they were talking?
I'm starting to believe that the rumor mill is SO rampant lately with the information age, internet and smart phones being so much more prevalent now that it's almost like the old "telephone game" gone wild LOL.
It's possible that one little rumor was started by one or two people 2-3 years ago and all of a sudden even high ranking GM personnel are quoting it as gospel.
But maybe not.