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Well for me I drive by myself 99% of the time. But I have to be able to haul my little girl in a pinch in a rear car seat. I don't want to have to buy an additional car for those occasions when my wife is out in the SUV.
The rear seats in my current car, total weigh less than 6#. The entire thing. I've pulled them and weighed them. No one wants a longer car and it's not needed to squeeze too tiny seats back there. There are many examples of this in other autos. They are used for small children and luggage only. In a pinch you can fit a 100 pound female back there.
The current C6 arrangement is needlessly wasteful of space and also it's very dangerous to place gear directly behind your freaking head. The interior dimensions of the C6 are definitely the worst and most outdated aspect of this car. The car is so huge on the outside, and so tiny on the inside.
I respect that some of you are "so racy" that you can drive a poorly arranged automobile every day. But Chevy would broaden their Vette customer base many times over if they just had some little back seats. All of the sudden the car is a valid comparison to the M3, 1M, 911 Carrera/ Turbo, etc... And all of those cars perform stupendously even hauling around 6# of back seats.
At 41 I might be one of the slightly younger and new style Vette enthusiasts that GM needs to rope in moving forward. I crave serious performance for track days and general hooliginisms which is what drove me here. Until recently I would have never considered a Vette and I was shopping for a 911 Turbo, or an M series Beemer. But the list of things that I dislike about the C6 is long. The interior is of poor quality, materials, and dimensions. Like really poor. The space is poorly utilized. Then to top is off the car is too large, especially to have so little interior space. The motors perform well, but at the minimum it needs DI for more effiency. Which should allow room for less displacement.
My ideal Vette would maintain C6 Z06 or better performance but it would also have:
- DI and decent mpg NA V8
- removable top
- some kind of back seats
- Smaller overall size
- Nice suede inserts and just a generally nicer interior
- 7 speed manual
- even lighter weight even though the current version is quite good in this regard.
If the C7 gets some back seats I will order a new one and trade in my current car next year. If no back seats, I'll buy one in 3 years used as a spare car only.
The rear seats in my current car, total weigh less than 6#. The entire thing. I've pulled them and weighed them. No one wants a longer car and it's not needed to squeeze too tiny seats back there. There are many examples of this in other autos. They are used for small children and luggage only. In a pinch you can fit a 100 pound female back there.
The current C6 arrangement is needlessly wasteful of space and also it's very dangerous to place gear directly behind your freaking head. The interior dimensions of the C6 are definitely the worst and most outdated aspect of this car. The car is so huge on the outside, and so tiny on the inside.
I respect that some of you are "so racy" that you can drive a poorly arranged automobile every day. But Chevy would broaden their Vette customer base many times over if they just had some little back seats. All of the sudden the car is a valid comparison to the M3, 1M, 911 Carrera/ Turbo, etc... And all of those cars perform stupendously even hauling around 6# of back seats.
At 41 I might be one of the slightly younger and new style Vette enthusiasts that GM needs to rope in moving forward. I crave serious performance for track days and general hooliginisms which is what drove me here. Until recently I would have never considered a Vette and I was shopping for a 911 Turbo, or an M series Beemer. But the list of things that I dislike about the C6 is long. The interior is of poor quality, materials, and dimensions. Like really poor. The space is poorly utilized. Then to top is off the car is too large, especially to have so little interior space. The motors perform well, but at the minimum it needs DI for more effiency. Which should allow room for less displacement.
My ideal Vette would maintain C6 Z06 or better performance but it would also have:
- DI and decent mpg NA V8
- removable top
- some kind of back seats
- Smaller overall size
- Nice suede inserts and just a generally nicer interior
- 7 speed manual
- even lighter weight even though the current version is quite good in this regard.
If the C7 gets some back seats I will order a new one and trade in my current car next year. If no back seats, I'll buy one in 3 years used as a spare car only.
#342
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Well for me I drive by myself 99% of the time. But I have to be able to haul my little girl in a pinch in a rear car seat. I don't want to have to buy an additional car for those occasions when my wife is out in the SUV.
The rear seats in my current car, total weigh less than 6#. The entire thing. I've pulled them and weighed them. No one wants a longer car and it's not needed to squeeze too tiny seats back there. There are many examples of this in other autos. They are used for small children and luggage only. In a pinch you can fit a 100 pound female back there.
The current C6 arrangement is needlessly wasteful of space and also it's very dangerous to place gear directly behind your freaking head. The interior dimensions of the C6 are definitely the worst and most outdated aspect of this car. The car is so huge on the outside, and so tiny on the inside.
I respect that some of you are "so racy" that you can drive a poorly arranged automobile every day. But Chevy would broaden their Vette customer base many times over if they just had some little back seats. All of the sudden the car is a valid comparison to the M3, 1M, 911 Carrera/ Turbo, etc... And all of those cars perform stupendously even hauling around 6# of back seats.
At 41 I might be one of the slightly younger and new style Vette enthusiasts that GM needs to rope in moving forward. I crave serious performance for track days and general hooliginisms which is what drove me here. Until recently I would have never considered a Vette and I was shopping for a 911 Turbo, or an M series Beemer. But the list of things that I dislike about the C6 is long. The interior is of poor quality, materials, and dimensions. Like really poor. The space is poorly utilized. Then to top is off the car is too large, especially to have so little interior space. The motors perform well, but at the minimum it needs DI for more effiency. Which should allow room for less displacement.
My ideal Vette would maintain C6 Z06 or better performance but it would also have:
- DI and decent mpg NA V8
- removable top
- some kind of back seats
- Smaller overall size
- Nice suede inserts and just a generally nicer interior
- 7 speed manual
- even lighter weight even though the current version is quite good in this regard.
If the C7 gets some back seats I will order a new one and trade in my current car next year. If no back seats, I'll buy one in 3 years used as a spare car only.
The rear seats in my current car, total weigh less than 6#. The entire thing. I've pulled them and weighed them. No one wants a longer car and it's not needed to squeeze too tiny seats back there. There are many examples of this in other autos. They are used for small children and luggage only. In a pinch you can fit a 100 pound female back there.
The current C6 arrangement is needlessly wasteful of space and also it's very dangerous to place gear directly behind your freaking head. The interior dimensions of the C6 are definitely the worst and most outdated aspect of this car. The car is so huge on the outside, and so tiny on the inside.
I respect that some of you are "so racy" that you can drive a poorly arranged automobile every day. But Chevy would broaden their Vette customer base many times over if they just had some little back seats. All of the sudden the car is a valid comparison to the M3, 1M, 911 Carrera/ Turbo, etc... And all of those cars perform stupendously even hauling around 6# of back seats.
At 41 I might be one of the slightly younger and new style Vette enthusiasts that GM needs to rope in moving forward. I crave serious performance for track days and general hooliginisms which is what drove me here. Until recently I would have never considered a Vette and I was shopping for a 911 Turbo, or an M series Beemer. But the list of things that I dislike about the C6 is long. The interior is of poor quality, materials, and dimensions. Like really poor. The space is poorly utilized. Then to top is off the car is too large, especially to have so little interior space. The motors perform well, but at the minimum it needs DI for more effiency. Which should allow room for less displacement.
My ideal Vette would maintain C6 Z06 or better performance but it would also have:
- DI and decent mpg NA V8
- removable top
- some kind of back seats
- Smaller overall size
- Nice suede inserts and just a generally nicer interior
- 7 speed manual
- even lighter weight even though the current version is quite good in this regard.
If the C7 gets some back seats I will order a new one and trade in my current car next year. If no back seats, I'll buy one in 3 years used as a spare car only.
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Well for me I drive by myself 99% of the time. But I have to be able to haul my little girl in a pinch in a rear car seat. I don't want to have to buy an additional car for those occasions when my wife is out in the SUV.
The rear seats in my current car, total weigh less than 6#. The entire thing. I've pulled them and weighed them. No one wants a longer car and it's not needed to squeeze too tiny seats back there. There are many examples of this in other autos. They are used for small children and luggage only. In a pinch you can fit a 100 pound female back there.
The current C6 arrangement is needlessly wasteful of space and also it's very dangerous to place gear directly behind your freaking head. The interior dimensions of the C6 are definitely the worst and most outdated aspect of this car. The car is so huge on the outside, and so tiny on the inside.
I respect that some of you are "so racy" that you can drive a poorly arranged automobile every day. But Chevy would broaden their Vette customer base many times over if they just had some little back seats. All of the sudden the car is a valid comparison to the M3, 1M, 911 Carrera/ Turbo, etc... And all of those cars perform stupendously even hauling around 6# of back seats.
At 41 I might be one of the slightly younger and new style Vette enthusiasts that GM needs to rope in moving forward. I crave serious performance for track days and general hooliginisms which is what drove me here. Until recently I would have never considered a Vette and I was shopping for a 911 Turbo, or an M series Beemer. But the list of things that I dislike about the C6 is long. The interior is of poor quality, materials, and dimensions. Like really poor. The space is poorly utilized. Then to top is off the car is too large, especially to have so little interior space. The motors perform well, but at the minimum it needs DI for more effiency. Which should allow room for less displacement.
My ideal Vette would maintain C6 Z06 or better performance but it would also have:
- DI and decent mpg NA V8
- removable top
- some kind of back seats
- Smaller overall size
- Nice suede inserts and just a generally nicer interior
- 7 speed manual
- even lighter weight even though the current version is quite good in this regard.
If the C7 gets some back seats I will order a new one and trade in my current car next year. If no back seats, I'll buy one in 3 years used as a spare car only.
The rear seats in my current car, total weigh less than 6#. The entire thing. I've pulled them and weighed them. No one wants a longer car and it's not needed to squeeze too tiny seats back there. There are many examples of this in other autos. They are used for small children and luggage only. In a pinch you can fit a 100 pound female back there.
The current C6 arrangement is needlessly wasteful of space and also it's very dangerous to place gear directly behind your freaking head. The interior dimensions of the C6 are definitely the worst and most outdated aspect of this car. The car is so huge on the outside, and so tiny on the inside.
I respect that some of you are "so racy" that you can drive a poorly arranged automobile every day. But Chevy would broaden their Vette customer base many times over if they just had some little back seats. All of the sudden the car is a valid comparison to the M3, 1M, 911 Carrera/ Turbo, etc... And all of those cars perform stupendously even hauling around 6# of back seats.
At 41 I might be one of the slightly younger and new style Vette enthusiasts that GM needs to rope in moving forward. I crave serious performance for track days and general hooliginisms which is what drove me here. Until recently I would have never considered a Vette and I was shopping for a 911 Turbo, or an M series Beemer. But the list of things that I dislike about the C6 is long. The interior is of poor quality, materials, and dimensions. Like really poor. The space is poorly utilized. Then to top is off the car is too large, especially to have so little interior space. The motors perform well, but at the minimum it needs DI for more effiency. Which should allow room for less displacement.
My ideal Vette would maintain C6 Z06 or better performance but it would also have:
- DI and decent mpg NA V8
- removable top
- some kind of back seats
- Smaller overall size
- Nice suede inserts and just a generally nicer interior
- 7 speed manual
- even lighter weight even though the current version is quite good in this regard.
If the C7 gets some back seats I will order a new one and trade in my current car next year. If no back seats, I'll buy one in 3 years used as a spare car only.
Seriously, not every model can be for every person.
Does noone remember the abomination that was the Datsun 260Z 2+2? They took a good looking sports car and tried to make it something for everyone.
#344
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Just found this thread, so this is replying to the OP.
I favorited this page, so we'll see what is true and what isn't.
But the 2+2 makes sense in some ways. The base Corvette has had so much trunk space (yes, I know it's necessary for removeable tops) that they probably could pull off a four-seater.
As for dropping the wide-body design, I guess if the goal of the car is to be more compact, that makes sense. Still, it's hard to believe that they would offer a 530 HP base model and 730 HP ZR1 with nothing in between. It'll be interesting to see how they get to 730 HP (i.e. supercharger vs. turbocharger). I also hope those bucket seats we saw in last week's spy shots are offered on the ZR1.
Finally (at least as far as performance is concerned), could the base model really produce 530 HP? I understand that this is an entirely new engine and that the base model of the new generation usually tops the previous generation's performance version (i.e. C5 had more power than the C4 ZR-1, C6 had more power than the C5 Z06), but I was under the impression we were looking at 440-470 HP.
Call me skeptical, but hey, I hope you're right about half of those things.
I favorited this page, so we'll see what is true and what isn't.
But the 2+2 makes sense in some ways. The base Corvette has had so much trunk space (yes, I know it's necessary for removeable tops) that they probably could pull off a four-seater.
As for dropping the wide-body design, I guess if the goal of the car is to be more compact, that makes sense. Still, it's hard to believe that they would offer a 530 HP base model and 730 HP ZR1 with nothing in between. It'll be interesting to see how they get to 730 HP (i.e. supercharger vs. turbocharger). I also hope those bucket seats we saw in last week's spy shots are offered on the ZR1.
Finally (at least as far as performance is concerned), could the base model really produce 530 HP? I understand that this is an entirely new engine and that the base model of the new generation usually tops the previous generation's performance version (i.e. C5 had more power than the C4 ZR-1, C6 had more power than the C5 Z06), but I was under the impression we were looking at 440-470 HP.
Call me skeptical, but hey, I hope you're right about half of those things.
#345
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im getting really sick of reading about this 2+2 stuff, and the two posters that keep pushing it and you know who you are. you want a back seat find another car because its not happening with the corvette. it doesn't suit your needs? than find a car that will. 60yrs of heritage down the drain because two people want it. give it up because it ain't happening. the 2+2 concept is EVERYTHING THE CORVETTE IS NOT ABOUT. when are you going to get it into your thick skulls!!!
#346
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im getting really sick of reading about this 2+2 stuff, and the two posters that keep pushing it and you know who you are. you want a back seat find another car because its not happening with the corvette. it doesn't suit your needs? than find a car that will. 60yrs of heritage down the drain because two people want it. give it up because it ain't happening. the 2+2 concept is EVERYTHING THE CORVETTE IS NOT ABOUT. when are you going to get it into your thick skulls!!!
You have mentioned that you are dead nuts positive that there is no 2+2 , right?
Also, you are carved in stone there will be no DOHC on the C7 , right?
So Red, why do you care what "know nothings" like myself have to say?
#347
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i guess you can't read either. i never mentioned anything about dead nuts positive about 2+2 seats. it is my strong opinion that it will not happen nor should it. as far as the DOHC i never mentioned that part other than the fact that i said i didn't believe a word of the op's original thread. get your head out of your a&*s and think logically that the corvette will not be 2+2. it is the one item that is totally against what the corvette is about. BTW you said 'know nothing' i never said anything like that but if you say it i guess you know something about your brain capacity that i don't.
#348
Melting Slicks
Major clues about the new C7 came out today.
Just 20 minutes ago an official GM Corvette spokesman was speaking on camera during the ABC coverage of the Petit Le Mans. He was unveiling the new C7 Logo to the racing fans.
While speaking, and hyping the new C7 he stated that the C7 is completely revolutionary and not merely evolutionary.
He further stated with great drama and enthusiasm that "there are only TWO PARTS on the ENTIRE C7 CAR that are carry overs and interchangeable with the C6 generation."
One was the cabin A/C air filter and the other was a non-mechanical component.
If this is true, then perhaps everything at the beginning of this string is pretty spot on.
I apologize if all of this has been previously posted.
Just 20 minutes ago an official GM Corvette spokesman was speaking on camera during the ABC coverage of the Petit Le Mans. He was unveiling the new C7 Logo to the racing fans.
While speaking, and hyping the new C7 he stated that the C7 is completely revolutionary and not merely evolutionary.
He further stated with great drama and enthusiasm that "there are only TWO PARTS on the ENTIRE C7 CAR that are carry overs and interchangeable with the C6 generation."
One was the cabin A/C air filter and the other was a non-mechanical component.
If this is true, then perhaps everything at the beginning of this string is pretty spot on.
I apologize if all of this has been previously posted.
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#349
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Just found this thread, so this is replying to the OP.
I favorited this page, so we'll see what is true and what isn't.
But the 2+2 makes sense in some ways. The base Corvette has had so much trunk space (yes, I know it's necessary for removeable tops) that they probably could pull off a four-seater.
As for dropping the wide-body design, I guess if the goal of the car is to be more compact, that makes sense. Still, it's hard to believe that they would offer a 530 HP base model and 730 HP ZR1 with nothing in between. It'll be interesting to see how they get to 730 HP (i.e. supercharger vs. turbocharger). I also hope those bucket seats we saw in last week's spy shots are offered on the ZR1.
Finally (at least as far as performance is concerned), could the base model really produce 530 HP? I understand that this is an entirely new engine and that the base model of the new generation usually tops the previous generation's performance version (i.e. C5 had more power than the C4 ZR-1, C6 had more power than the C5 Z06), but I was under the impression we were looking at 440-470 HP.
Call me skeptical, but hey, I hope you're right about half of those things.
I favorited this page, so we'll see what is true and what isn't.
But the 2+2 makes sense in some ways. The base Corvette has had so much trunk space (yes, I know it's necessary for removeable tops) that they probably could pull off a four-seater.
As for dropping the wide-body design, I guess if the goal of the car is to be more compact, that makes sense. Still, it's hard to believe that they would offer a 530 HP base model and 730 HP ZR1 with nothing in between. It'll be interesting to see how they get to 730 HP (i.e. supercharger vs. turbocharger). I also hope those bucket seats we saw in last week's spy shots are offered on the ZR1.
Finally (at least as far as performance is concerned), could the base model really produce 530 HP? I understand that this is an entirely new engine and that the base model of the new generation usually tops the previous generation's performance version (i.e. C5 had more power than the C4 ZR-1, C6 had more power than the C5 Z06), but I was under the impression we were looking at 440-470 HP.
Call me skeptical, but hey, I hope you're right about half of those things.
With that thinking, there won't be a 530hp base C7. At least initially.
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Major clues about the new C7 came out today.
Just 20 minutes ago an official GM Corvette spokesman was speaking on camera during the ABC coverage of the Petit Le Mans. He was unveiling the new C7 Logo to the racing fans.
While speaking, and hyping the new C7 he stated that the C7 is completely revolutionary, not evolutionary.
He further stated that "there are only TWO PARTS on the ENTIRE C7 CAR that are carry overs and interchangeable with the C6 generation."
One was the cabin A/C air filter and the other was a non-mechanical component.
If this is true, then perhaps everything at the beginning of this string is pretty spot on.
I apologize if all of this has been previously posted.
Just 20 minutes ago an official GM Corvette spokesman was speaking on camera during the ABC coverage of the Petit Le Mans. He was unveiling the new C7 Logo to the racing fans.
While speaking, and hyping the new C7 he stated that the C7 is completely revolutionary, not evolutionary.
He further stated that "there are only TWO PARTS on the ENTIRE C7 CAR that are carry overs and interchangeable with the C6 generation."
One was the cabin A/C air filter and the other was a non-mechanical component.
If this is true, then perhaps everything at the beginning of this string is pretty spot on.
I apologize if all of this has been previously posted.
#351
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#352
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i guess you can't read either. i never mentioned anything about dead nuts positive about 2+2 seats. it is my strong opinion that it will not happen nor should it. as far as the DOHC i never mentioned that part other than the fact that i said i didn't believe a word of the op's original thread. get your head out of your a&*s and think logically that the corvette will not be 2+2. it is the one item that is totally against what the corvette is about. BTW you said 'know nothing' i never said anything like that but if you say it i guess you know something about your brain capacity that i don't.
I guess it is possible you would behave in a similar way if we were physically closer but I am quite sure you would either be armed with a weapon or have a lawyer by you side. It is quite evident that you don't "roll solo".
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How should one respond to your crude remarks Red?
I guess it is possible you would behave in a similar way if we were physically closer but I am quite sure you would either be armed with a weapon or have a lawyer by you side. It is quite evident that you don't "roll solo".
I guess it is possible you would behave in a similar way if we were physically closer but I am quite sure you would either be armed with a weapon or have a lawyer by you side. It is quite evident that you don't "roll solo".
#355
Burning Brakes
My educated opinion is that it will never go in the 2 second range, nor consistently, with 2wd. Those other cars are AWD. Not buying it, hope Im wrong, but just don't see it.
#356
Le Mans Master
Well John, there are different cars available that fit your dreams. Go buy a Porsche 911 (but OMG, not a Cayman - What WAS Porsche thinking?), Camaro, Mustang, Jag, Aston, Ferrari California, etc.
#357
Le Mans Master
Major clues about the new C7 came out today.
Just 20 minutes ago an official GM Corvette spokesman was speaking on camera during the ABC coverage of the Petit Le Mans. He was unveiling the new C7 Logo to the racing fans.
While speaking, and hyping the new C7 he stated that the C7 is completely revolutionary and not merely evolutionary.
He further stated with great drama and enthusiasm that "there are only TWO PARTS on the ENTIRE C7 CAR that are carry overs and interchangeable with the C6 generation."
One was the cabin A/C air filter and the other was a non-mechanical component.
If this is true, then perhaps everything at the beginning of this string is pretty spot on.
I apologize if all of this has been previously posted.
Just 20 minutes ago an official GM Corvette spokesman was speaking on camera during the ABC coverage of the Petit Le Mans. He was unveiling the new C7 Logo to the racing fans.
While speaking, and hyping the new C7 he stated that the C7 is completely revolutionary and not merely evolutionary.
He further stated with great drama and enthusiasm that "there are only TWO PARTS on the ENTIRE C7 CAR that are carry overs and interchangeable with the C6 generation."
One was the cabin A/C air filter and the other was a non-mechanical component.
If this is true, then perhaps everything at the beginning of this string is pretty spot on.
I apologize if all of this has been previously posted.
#358
Melting Slicks
Anyway, a 911 is a great car but the C7 is going to be off the charts and very, very desirable . Speculating about the C7 is some of the most fun I ever had...
#359
Le Mans Master
Thanks Jack, I am a single Dad with 4 kids..6,8,11, and 17 years old. I was driving a 911 cabriolet when I met their mom. Only now do I realize that is why she married me! How sad that women are like that !
Anyway, a 911 is a great car but the C7 is going to be off the charts and very, very desirable . Speculating about the C7 is some of the most fun I ever had...
Anyway, a 911 is a great car but the C7 is going to be off the charts and very, very desirable . Speculating about the C7 is some of the most fun I ever had...
I hear ya on all point amigo. Been there; done that. Needing a mini-van was a point in my life, as was the car/chick thing in Southern California years ago.
I enjoy the C7 speculation John, but reading posts of those who pontificate just what GM MUST do with it to insure the car, Chevrolet, and GM succeed, or duplicate other available cars of their dreams, gets stale.
And God forbid if some of us post anything different than their opinion, or post facts to refute their comments. We are instant know-it-alls or A-holes.
I realize we can ignore each other, but that would kill the forum.
As I've done since the mid-fifties, I patiently wait for the official announcement. January will be here soon. Then watch it hit the fan with complaints, once again, on what GM produced for us.
Highest regards, Jack
#360
I don't believe the 2+2 rumor for a second. Why? It's too risky and too costly to develop. I have nothing but anecdotal information to go by, but GM is very likely to lose a lot more traditional and loyal Corvette enthusiasts than it is to attract a new market by making this dramatic change. My recollection is that the mean income for a Porsche 991 owner is in excess of $300K a year. I don't see many of this group being interested in buying a Chevy product since they are driven as much by perceived brand prestige as by performance.
Corvette owners on the other hand are by and large hard core car enthusiasts who value performance and style above all else. Of course there are exceptions to my characterizations since there are some people who own both brands, but IMO they are the exception to the rule. I just don't see doctors, lawyers, and Wall Streeters buying a Chevy product. If you haven't had the opportunity, test drive a Porsche 991. It is more GT car than sports car, but I expect that Porsche's marketing surveys indicate that this is exactly the type of car that their customers crave.
Corvette owners on the other hand are by and large hard core car enthusiasts who value performance and style above all else. Of course there are exceptions to my characterizations since there are some people who own both brands, but IMO they are the exception to the rule. I just don't see doctors, lawyers, and Wall Streeters buying a Chevy product. If you haven't had the opportunity, test drive a Porsche 991. It is more GT car than sports car, but I expect that Porsche's marketing surveys indicate that this is exactly the type of car that their customers crave.