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Old Sep 13, 2012 | 07:35 PM
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1) 3.4s to 60MPH and 11.4s 1/4 miles with possible prepped track records?

2) Consistant RWD World Class sprints of 3.0s to 60MPH and 11.0s in a 1/4 mile?


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??? Are we voting for what we want in a C7 or for what we expect in a C7? Or for something else altogether?

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??? Are we voting for what we want in a C7 or for what we expect in a C7? Or for something else altogether?
How about out the door 2) for all of us and let the tuners add best attribute 1) if YOU want it!

Please excuse my logic!


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3.8 seconds 0-60 and 12 flat in the 1/4. They are not going to raise the bar so high that it makes the high performance model(to be along later when they need a "new and improved" version to kick start sales) difficult to top without really running up the cost to produce(and warrant for 100,000 miles).
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3.8 seconds 0-60 and 12 flat in the 1/4. They are not going to raise the bar so high that it makes the high performance model(to be along later when they need a "new and improved" version to kick start sales) difficult to top without really running up the cost to produce(and warrant for 100,000 miles).
1) or 2)!

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Originally Posted by johnglenntwo
1) or 2)!

That's like saying...
"who will you marry next time?"

1) supermodel behind door #1

or

2) supermodel behind door #2


You have to keep the poll realistic for it to be of any value.
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Originally Posted by johnglenntwo
1) 3.4s to 60MPH and 11.4s 1/4 miles with possible prepped track records?

2) Consistant RWD World Class sprints of 3.0s to 60MPH and 11.0s in a 1/4 mile?
After the modders get their hands on them and add 50 HP, sure.

2) No, not with the reasonable HP numbers that are expected.

But, Given the expected weight and HP, it would take the engine to be behind the driver or 4WD or another 100 HP to achieve 3.0 sec 0-60. The engine WILL be up front, and there is no 4WD (or AWD) available.
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Originally Posted by MitchAlsup
After the modders get their hands on them and add 50 HP, sure.

2) No, not with the reasonable HP numbers that are expected.

But, Given the expected weight and HP, it would take the engine to be behind the driver or 4WD or another 100 HP to achieve 3.0 sec 0-60. The engine WILL be up front, and there is no 4WD (or AWD) available.
What are the expected HP and weight guesstimates?
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
You have to keep the poll realistic for it to be of any value.
Your realism can come from the besting competition! They ALL have less HP, a lot less torque in smaller engines, quick shifting, and no supercharger!

Originally Posted by MitchAlsup
After the modders get their hands on them and add 50 HP, sure.

2) No, not with the reasonable HP numbers that are expected.

But, Given the expected weight and HP, it would take the engine to be behind the driver or 4WD or another 100 HP to achieve 3.0 sec 0-60. The engine WILL be up front, and there is no 4WD (or AWD) available.
As above, since, the ZR1s power and torque are what it can't get to the ground efficiently.

Originally Posted by bcmarly
What are the expected HP and weight guesstimates?
Reasonably low weight for sure, but, most of the cars that can beat up around town on the ZR1 are heavier and again have far less power!

And lets include the Viper in here because it is up against the same wall for the same reasons!


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Neither! 0-60 around 3.9. Quarter in 12 flat.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
3.8 seconds 0-60 and 12 flat in the 1/4. They are not going to raise the bar so high that it makes the high performance model(to be along later when they need a "new and improved" version to kick start sales) difficult to top without really running up the cost to produce(and warrant for 100,000 miles).
We have a winner with common sense!
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Originally Posted by meadowz06
We have a winner with common sense!
I wasn't talking about the base model, or necessarily the first year (3.4s isn't a base number). The top performing Vettes showed up 1&3 years later in the C6!

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Default The new automatic!

Also I have read that the new 6-speed automatics upshifts are as fast as a twin clutch. That would help!

A nice linear power building Z06 (not a supercharged) engine would be what I would like to see. Probably turbos for their midrange torque and efficiency in a smaller displacement engine! "Why have to combat all that low end torque!"


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Originally Posted by johnglenntwo
I wasn't talking about the base model, or necessarily the first year (3.4s isn't a base number). The top performing Vettes showed up 1&3 years later in the C6!

Then you should have stated that. You said "Vette........". Nothing about it being a Vette several years down the line or an optional high performance Vette. I you want clear answers, then ask clear questions. I can't read your mind.
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Originally Posted by johnglenntwo
Also I have read that the new 6-speed automatics upshifts are as fast as a twin clutch. That would help!

A nice linear power building Z06 (not a supercharged) engine would be what I would like to see. Probably turbos for their midrange torque and efficiency in a smaller displacement engine! "Why have to combat all that low end torque!"

The LS7 in my C6 Z06 is linear power building. As the RPMs go up, so goes the horsepower.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
The LS7 in my C6 Z06 is linear power building. As the RPMs go up, so goes the horsepower.
Isn't the C6Z the car that only recently got safe and competive road racing? I beleave snap oversteer has its roots in torque? 427 style low end torque! If you get the older C6 Z06 breathing better does it get easier to drive? NO!
But, I think your right to the end that I spoke of above the 7k RPM C6 Z06 is the direction they are going.

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Originally Posted by johnglenntwo
1) 3.4s to 60MPH and 11.4s 1/4 miles with possible prepped track records?

2) Consistant RWD World Class sprints of 3.0s to 60MPH and 11.0s in a 1/4 mile?

I assume that you are asking about manufacturer's ratings (aka: 'the average') and NOT what the cars might do in private owners hands?
Because there can be quite a difference in the results there.
The factory bone stock C6 Z06 was claimed to be roughly an 11.7 second capable car in the 1/4 mile, yet others have gotten theirs down into the 10.9 - 11.3 second range.
A bone stock C6 LS2 was being touted as capable of roughly 12.6 or 12.7 in the 1/4 mile...
I did it in 12.2.

The base C7 will probably be factory rated as an 11 second 1/4 mile car (maybe mid-high 3 second range for 0-60) but it too will eventually eclipse those numbers in private hands just as the C5s and C6s did.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
I assume that you are asking about manufacturer's ratings (aka: 'the average') and NOT what the cars might do in private owners hands?
Because there can be quite a difference in the results there.
The factory bone stock C6 Z06 was claimed to be roughly an 11.7 second capable car in the 1/4 mile, yet others have gotten theirs down into the 10.9 - 11.3 second range.
A bone stock C6 LS2 was being touted as capable of roughly 12.6 or 12.7 in the 1/4 mile...
I did it in 12.2.

The base C7 will probably be factory rated as an 11 second 1/4 mile car (maybe mid-high 3 second range for 0-60) but it too will eventually eclipse those numbers in private hands just as the C5s and C6s did.
...I read the magizines which had the C5 Z06 doing 4.3s, 12.5s(3.9s by GM), and the Turbo 911 was 4s, 12s, or so. Anyway. that told me with a little tweaking what was there and ended up with 380whp & 379wtq easily, easily enough to deal well with the Porsche(value$).
Anyway, the private numbers have all those variables in them on prepped tracks. The MAGS INFO is frankly more reliable for comparison as the big banger production cars seldom, if at all, seem to make it drag racing!


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Originally Posted by JoesC5
3.8 seconds 0-60 and 12 flat in the 1/4. They are not going to raise the bar so high that it makes the high performance model(to be along later when they need a "new and improved" version to kick start sales) difficult to top without really running up the cost to produce(and warrant for 100,000 miles).
Remember they have taken a year longer then the C5 to come up with the new model. Given the state of engineering these days I wouldn't be surprised to see a Z06 next year! I think they might want to keep their hat in the ring depending on how they have done! 3.0s & 11.0s with that amazing 78mph slalom would look real good! And all the competitors cars are focused one-off models (kind of)! How about making the good one primary and having the watered down one secondary to make sure the goals are achieved!


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A nice linear power building Z06 (not a roots supercharged) in a smaller displacement engine would be what I would like to see!
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